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Relining a movie poster...

CharlieCharlie Member, Administrator, Moderator, Game Master Posts: 6,298 admin
I've tackled two jobs requiring stripping off old backings...

Most of it I posted on FB but here are some highlights...

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That second mouse in the bowl of cream we call life...

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter

    Interesting Charlie.

    Was just reading Dario's Facebook post on this very (frustrating) issue...



    Chris
  • DavidDavid Member Posts: 10,230 admin

    Typically, is linen easier or harder to remove than paper backing?
    David
  • EisenhowerEisenhower Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 4,039 admin
    Awesome Charlie! Looks like extremely laborious work! What FB page are you referring to? Would love to follow all the details!
  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    I spy with my little eye something beginning with D!
  • CharlieCharlie Member, Administrator, Moderator, Game Master Posts: 6,298 admin
    Awesome Charlie! Looks like extremely laborious work! What FB page are you referring to? Would love to follow all the details!
    My Movie Poster Works page...
    That second mouse in the bowl of cream we call life...
  • CharlieCharlie Member, Administrator, Moderator, Game Master Posts: 6,298 admin
    I spy with my little eye something beginning with D!
    Yes... I even made wheat paste tonight. Matt should be happy by the weekend.
    That second mouse in the bowl of cream we call life...
  • CharlieCharlie Member, Administrator, Moderator, Game Master Posts: 6,298 admin
    David said:

    Typically, is linen easier or harder to remove than paper backing?
    The linen/canvas takes 10 min... The masa part takes hours...
    That second mouse in the bowl of cream we call life...
  • SvenSven Member Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    Thought
    Charlie said:
    David said:

    Typically, is linen easier or harder to remove than paper backing?
    The linen/canvas takes 10 min... The masa part takes hours...
    Ouch! I was hopimg you could soak and peel off! Better to leave on and reback? And if there was lots of restoration to chips and holes...my head exploded!
  • MattMatt Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 5,077 admin
    Charlie said:
    I spy with my little eye something beginning with D!
    Yes... I even made wheat paste tonight. Matt should be happy by the weekend.
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  • JohnJohn Member, Dealer Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    There are some cases when linen backing is not really reversible, particularly when there was heavy restoration and air brushing. I have seen some disasters when posters have not been able to be saved.
    John

  • DavidDavid Member Posts: 10,230 admin
    John said:
    There are some cases when linen backing is not really reversible, particularly when there was heavy restoration and air brushing. I have seen some disasters when posters have not been able to be saved.
    Ahh of course, never thought about the problems one would have with the restored part of the posters
    David
  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector


    David said:
    John said:
    There are some cases when linen backing is not really reversible, particularly when there was heavy restoration and air brushing. I have seen some disasters when posters have not been able to be saved.
    Ahh of course, never thought about the problems one would have with the restored part of the posters


    Wha?  Those parts just get re-restored...what am I missing?

    I assume something is getting re-backed because it was a crappy job to start with right?  So I am assuming any restoration would be crappy also...if all the appropriate materials were used first time round, in theory it should be fine...now if it wasn't backed properly to start with, well then I assume you are in a world of pain!

  • DavidDavid Member Posts: 10,230 admin
    edited July 2015
    I think John was referring to when the linen goes bad in this instance
    David
  • JohnJohn Member, Dealer Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    edited July 2015

    Well, actually I was referring to some posters that had been heavily restored by some of the best linen backers. The owner of the posters had purchased them over the years through various auctions and had had some backed himself. His preference was for linen backed posters to look as close to perfect as possible.

    He had stored the posters in a cabinet in his garage but they were affected by moisture during the floods up in Queensland - not ruined, but they had moisture marks and needed to be rebacked. He sent the posters to a restorer and was warned of the risks. When the posters were removed from the linen they found that just fragments of the poster were left. Apparently, the fragments had been pieced together by the original backer and it was obvious that many had been heavily airbrushed. The job of re restoring the fragments would have been massive and no guarantee of success so he decided to leave the rest "as is".

    This is obviously a worst case scenario but its worth keeping in mind that these things can happen.


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    John

  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector

    Ah so when he purchased them he didn't have the full picture on what state they were in when before they we originally backed?  Yep, can see where this would definitely be an issue.

  • CharlieCharlie Member, Administrator, Moderator, Game Master Posts: 6,298 admin
    Interestingly the second poster almost falls in this prior restoration category. The restoration work along the folds and borders not only came off when I removed the masa but since it appears that they used permanent mediums ie acrylic, it acted like glue and pulled more paper with it. The one shown above is a relatively simple backing job. The second is pretty much in 8 pieces right now... I'll post some pics soon.
    That second mouse in the bowl of cream we call life...
  • CharlieCharlie Member, Administrator, Moderator, Game Master Posts: 6,298 admin
    And the backing jobs weren't terrible. They were both in Richie's warehouse and there was a leak in the roof.
    That second mouse in the bowl of cream we call life...
  • CharlieCharlie Member, Administrator, Moderator, Game Master Posts: 6,298 admin
    edited July 2015
    Better to leave on and reback?


    I was thinking about this. I need to ask Dario. The backing was really solid. But the problem is that one spot where it might have been weak. Then you are doing it again?
    Post edited by Charlie on
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