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  • collectaholliccollectahollic Member Posts: 695 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
  • collectaholliccollectahollic Member Posts: 695 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
  • jayn_jjayn_j Member, Singin Dancing Fool, Lobby Master Posts: 619 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    David said:
    Anyone know when the Clockwork Orange R18 one came out? Surely the R20 re-release came first?

    If I remember correctly A Clockwork Orange was originally R20 - it was well discussed at school (R20? wow, a must see movie!), we all thought it was stupid we was going to have to wait years to see such a popular movie. IIRC I did see it as a late night double feature with (I think) Rocky Horror (which was R13?) in about 1976/77 with a mate at our local cinema who didn't really care about our ages.

    Sometime in the '80s there was a re-release (If a hazy memory serves me well I'd guess around 1984/85) and by then it was R18, but we all had seen it so didn't care, in fact VHS was starting to boom and you could get all sort of movies that you hadn't previously been able to see....
    BTW, unbelievable acquisition, WIL.

    My thought is that the Australian releases followed the US ones.  Clockwork Orange originally came out in the states with an X rating in 1972.  About a year later Warner re-released it with an R rating after Kubrick cut about 30 seconds of sexual violence from the film.  I think that explains the R20 and R18
    - Jay -
    Curmudgeon in training 
  • EisenhowerEisenhower Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 3,984 admin
  • collectaholliccollectahollic Member Posts: 695 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Once again, nice Daybills Will!
    Cheers, there's certainly some nice pieces in the haul, however from now having dug through all of the boxes it's definitely more 'quantity over quality' with a fair portion of 70's soft porn and romance titles. 
    Wil
  • SvenSven Member Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    edited March 2017
    Once again, nice Daybills Will!
    Cheers, there's certainly some nice pieces in the haul, however from now having dug through all of the boxes it's definitely more 'quantity over quality' with a fair portion of 70's soft porn and romance titles. 
    Soft porn... @Pancho...you will be in heaven!
    Post edited by Sven on
  • MattMatt Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 5,040 admin
    The Long Trailer, great film. Hard to get daybill too.
  • CSM_2_Point_0CSM_2_Point_0 Member, Super Sleuth Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    Wil do you get the feeling the collection had already been picked over even beyond the obvious (Star Wars etc.)?
    -Chris

    There's a street of lights

    A long dark night
    Restaurant scenes
    And dark machines...

  • CharlieCharlie Member, Administrator, Moderator, Game Master Posts: 6,269 admin
    Do you have doubles of this?



    I want one now.
    That second mouse in the bowl of cream we call life...
  • collectaholliccollectahollic Member Posts: 695 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Wil do you get the feeling the collection had already been picked over even beyond the obvious (Star Wars etc.)?
    To be honest no, the family were always quite clear that whoever wanted anything out of it would have to take it 'all or nothing' and I know a couple of local collectors who knew the deceased and even they were refused special treatment.

    The guy was a plumber who serviced the majority of the local cinemas, who
    for 30 odd years was able to scour their storerooms and take away whatever posters he felt like. Some titles had over 20 multiples and the more modern 80's classic's have even more, so I'm still pretty happy with what I walked away with. There's honestly still a bucket load of good titles, however the photographing, upload to cloud, download to PC, resizing, uploading to photobucket etc. was taking forever, so had to limit what I displayed. 

    I'm confident that the multiple titles will recover the purchase price (although it may take a while), but things like those Jaws 'read the book, see the movie' flyers are proving pretty popular in the States as none the of the well know Jaws collectors had ever seen them before etc.

    There we're also a few early framed Bond posters the had unfortunately been glued to the backing card, so fingers crossed my backer will be able to
    ge those off, however a second 'You Only Live Twice' one sheet has been pretty heavily slashed so may he a goner! 


    Wil
  • collectaholliccollectahollic Member Posts: 695 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Charlie said:
    Do you have doubles of this?



    I want one now.
    I've a feeling there are Charlie, I'll dig the box out later and get back
    to you.
    Wil
  • CSM_2_Point_0CSM_2_Point_0 Member, Super Sleuth Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    Thanks Wil - appreciate you sharing a bit of background on the collection
    -Chris

    There's a street of lights

    A long dark night
    Restaurant scenes
    And dark machines...

  • DavidDavid Member Posts: 10,213 admin
    Thanks Wil - appreciate you sharing a bit of background on the collection
    Yup, the history of collections can be as fascinating as the collection itself
    David
  • collectaholliccollectahollic Member Posts: 695 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Thanks Wil - appreciate you sharing a bit of background on the collection
    David said:
    Yup, the history of collections can be as fascinating as the collection itself
    The house was massive and in many ways he was a bit of a hoarder, having many rooms devoted to other 'subjects', i.e a room packed full of Airline material from old airplane seats, check in signage to ticket stubs. Then there was another huge room devoted to trains etc... quite the hoarder who literally collected anything and everything, usually I'm assuming from places that he 'plumbed'? However his record keeping was spectacular with even the most insignificant of items logged carefully in one of his many well kept ledgers!
    Wil
  • DavidDavid Member Posts: 10,213 admin
    Lucky you.

    I've picked over a hoarders place (a family of projectionists), no ledger, stuff piled 5' high, a lot of: "I've got that over there" quite unbelievable and simply impossible to even know where or how to begin -  in the end all I got out of it was a movie reel from 1940s, which in itself was great.
    David
  • collectaholliccollectahollic Member Posts: 695 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    David said:
    Lucky you.
    Indeed, I think I benefited from his OCD!  :)
    Wil
  • collectaholliccollectahollic Member Posts: 695 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Another reason why his elderly parents didn't want people to cherry pick items, instead wanting (needing) people to come in an uplift rooms in there entirety. I think Air New Zealand cleaned out the airline room etc. 
    Wil
  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    David said:
    Anyone know when the Clockwork Orange R18 one came out? Surely the R20 re-release came first?

    If I remember correctly A Clockwork Orange was originally R20 - it was well discussed at school (R20? wow, a must see movie!), we all thought it was stupid we was going to have to wait years to see such a popular movie. IIRC I did see it as a late night double feature with (I think) Rocky Horror (which was R13?) in about 1976/77 with a mate at our local cinema who didn't really care about our ages.

    Sometime in the '80s there was a re-release (If a hazy memory serves me well I'd guess around 1984/85) and by then it was R18, but we all had seen it so didn't care, in fact VHS was starting to boom and you could get all sort of movies that you hadn't previously been able to see....


    Official information just received from a contact in New Zealand.


    '' A Clockwork Orange was originally classified in 1972 as R20 ( without cuts ), and this was subsequently reduced to R18 in 1988 ( this is the current classification ). R20 was the highest age restriction available at the time. Since 1994, R18 is the highest age restriction, and any films that were previously R20 became R18''.

    Lawrence
  • DavidDavid Member Posts: 10,213 admin
    edited March 2017
    HONDO said:
    David said:
    Anyone know when the Clockwork Orange R18 one came out? Surely the R20 re-release came first?

    If I remember correctly A Clockwork Orange was originally R20 - it was well discussed at school (R20? wow, a must see movie!), we all thought it was stupid we was going to have to wait years to see such a popular movie. IIRC I did see it as a late night double feature with (I think) Rocky Horror (which was R13?) in about 1976/77 with a mate at our local cinema who didn't really care about our ages.

    Sometime in the '80s there was a re-release (If a hazy memory serves me well I'd guess around 1984/85) and by then it was R18, but we all had seen it so didn't care, in fact VHS was starting to boom and you could get all sort of movies that you hadn't previously been able to see....


    Official information just received from a contact in New Zealand.


    '' A Clockwork Orange was originally classified in 1972 as R20 ( without cuts ), and this was subsequently reduced to R18 in 1988 ( this is the current classification ). R20 was the highest age restriction available at the time. Since 1994, R18 is the highest age restriction, and any films that were previously R20 became R18''.


    Official? Who says that? Why is it "official"

    I really doubt the 1988 for the R18 classification.
    David
  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector

    Almost all feedback I seem to receive from David lately, which is very little, is usually negative feedback. It would be nice to receive a well done or a compliment once in a blue moon for all the information I post on the forum, that most likely you wouldn't receive from any other source.

    It is ''official'' because it comes direct from a contact I have at the Office of Film and Literature Classification in New Zealand. All that I posted was exactly, word for word, as I received it from this ''official'' source.


    Lawrence
  • DavidDavid Member Posts: 10,213 admin
    HONDO said:

    Almost all feedback I seem to receive from David lately, which is very little, is usually negative feedback. It would be nice to receive a well done or a compliment once in a blue moon for all the information I post on the forum, that most likely you wouldn't receive from any other source.

    It is ''official'' because it comes direct from a contact I have at the Office of Film and Literature Classification in New Zealand. All that I posted was exactly, word for word, as I received it from this ''official'' source.

    Really? FFS, I have no bloody idea what you're on about but you want me to applaud you now? Geeze get a life.

    Like I said I doubt the dates you offered, I didn't say I was 100% right with mine because I was relying on memory but I certainly felt they didn't match my memory banks. Beating your chest that you have 'official' information without stating who that informant is pretty much like Trump on Twitter - just because you say it doesn't make it so number 2.

    So I checked, and then I did what every good researcher does, I cross checked:

    http://www.censor.org.nz/resources/history/ - read the year 1972, just under where it says Germaine Greer convicted for saying 'bullshit'. How apt.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/books/71846099/kiwi-censorships-most-infamous-moments - read it, about the 4th to last paragraph

    Ring your informant, ask if he has a pipe, why don't you stuff these facts in it and why don't you bloody light it. 
    David
  • SvenSven Member Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
  • CharlieCharlie Member, Administrator, Moderator, Game Master Posts: 6,269 admin
    HONDO said:

    Almost all feedback I seem to receive from David lately, which is very little, is usually negative feedback. It would be nice to receive a well done or a compliment once in a blue moon for all the information I post on the forum, that most likely you wouldn't receive from any other source.

    It is ''official'' because it comes direct from a contact I have at the Office of Film and Literature Classification in New Zealand. All that I posted was exactly, word for word, as I received it from this ''official'' source.


    Well done Lawrence.





    That second mouse in the bowl of cream we call life...
  • CSM_2_Point_0CSM_2_Point_0 Member, Super Sleuth Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    -Chris

    There's a street of lights

    A long dark night
    Restaurant scenes
    And dark machines...

  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
     
    David said:
    HONDO said:

    Almost all feedback I seem to receive from David lately, which is very little, is usually negative feedback. It would be nice to receive a well done or a compliment once in a blue moon for all the information I post on the forum, that most likely you wouldn't receive from any other source.

    It is ''official'' because it comes direct from a contact I have at the Office of Film and Literature Classification in New Zealand. All that I posted was exactly, word for word, as I received it from this ''official'' source.

    Really? FFS, I have no bloody idea what you're on about but you want me to applaud you now? Geeze get a life.

    Like I said I doubt the dates you offered, I didn't say I was 100% right with mine because I was relying on memory but I certainly felt they didn't match my memory banks. Beating your chest that you have 'official' information without stating who that informant is pretty much like Trump on Twitter - just because you say it doesn't make it so number 2.

    So I checked, and then I did what every good researcher does, I cross checked:

    http://www.censor.org.nz/resources/history/ - read the year 1972, just under where it says Germaine Greer convicted for saying 'bullshit'. How apt.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/books/71846099/kiwi-censorships-most-infamous-moments - read it, about the 4th to last paragraph

    Ring your informant, ask if he has a pipe, why don't you stuff these facts in it and why don't you bloody light it. 

    I am currently checking out the information you have now supplied on the date being 1984 with my N.Z. Government contact. I had thought I was very civil in my response to you original reply and that you could have been a little more non aggressive in your latest response.
    Lawrence
  • EisenhowerEisenhower Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 3,984 admin
    HONDO said:

    Almost all feedback I seem to receive from David lately, which is very little, is usually negative feedback. It would be nice to receive a well done or a compliment once in a blue moon for all the information I post on the forum, that most likely you wouldn't receive from any other source.


    Someone asked what you meant by "official" poster info--just provide your info in a rebuttal! 

    At least you got a response! I posted a beautiful Cleopatra one sheet 24 hrs ago (well maybe 12 but who's gonna check) and not one person has commented! ....and I know certain people have been logged in! Now come on members I need some props!  B)
  • DavidDavid Member Posts: 10,213 admin
    HONDO said:
    Almost all feedback I seem to receive from David lately, which is very little, is usually negative feedback. 

    That's civil?

    While you are checking with your "NZ Government contact" be advised that the first link I gave (censor.org.nz) is in fact operated by the same organisation he works for.
    David
  • CharlieCharlie Member, Administrator, Moderator, Game Master Posts: 6,269 admin
    HONDO said:

    Almost all feedback I seem to receive from David lately, which is very little, is usually negative feedback. It would be nice to receive a well done or a compliment once in a blue moon for all the information I post on the forum, that most likely you wouldn't receive from any other source.


    Someone asked what you meant by "official" poster info--just provide your info in a rebuttal! 

    At least you got a response! I posted a beautiful Cleopatra one sheet 24 hrs ago (well maybe 12 but who's gonna check) and not one person has commented! ....and I know certain people have been logged in! Now come on members I need some props!  B)
    Link?  
    That second mouse in the bowl of cream we call life...
  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    David said:
    HONDO said:
    Almost all feedback I seem to receive from David lately, which is very little, is usually negative feedback. 

    That's civil?

    While you are checking with your "NZ Government contact" be advised that the first link I gave (censor.org.nz) is in fact operated by the same organisation he works for.t
    It's called being truthful as well and yes I am aware of the link and that is why I have queried the differences in dates with my new Zealand Contact, No one at home there at present but when they do return on Monday and I receive a reply back, I will post the answer I receive here on the thread.
    Lawrence
  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector

    Just received from my contact at the New Zealand Government Classification Office the following reply, and is reproduced, unaltered, word for word, as follows.

    ''Hi Lawrence,

    Thanks for your email. From what I can find, the only classification in 1984 was this one.

    Restricted to persons 20 years and over and to 6th form, 7th form and tertiary students under that age only if the film is a legitimate part of their study curriculum and written consent is supplied by the parent or guardian of any such student under 18 years of age.

    In most ways this still meant the film was R20. We do have a classification record for 1988 however, making the film R18. It's possible that there is a missing record which shows the film being classified R18 in 1984, however I think this is doubtful as this would mean the film was classified twice in the same year and given very different classifications. More likely is that there has been some error along the way leading the incorrect date going up on our website ( which I'll have to change!).

    I hope this is helpful and sorry for the confusion.

    Cheers,                                                                                                                                                                            H.''

    Over to David now for his comments


    Lawrence
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