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What Happened To The Australian Daybills?

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  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    I think the Purple Gang were the Bernstein Brothers, in Detroit during Prohibition. Nice poster, Ves!



    The actual Detroit Purple gang. A scary looking lot I would say.
    Lawrence
  • EisenhowerEisenhower Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 3,880 admin
    HONDO said:
    I think the Purple Gang were the Bernstein Brothers, in Detroit during Prohibition. Nice poster, Ves!



    The actual Detroit Purple gang. A scary looking lot I would say.
    Good snag, Lawrence!  They were short on brains, but tough on muscle. Perfect for the  Detroit river----which saw 75% of bootlegged alcohol into America during Prohibition. 
  • CSM_2_Point_0CSM_2_Point_0 Member, Super Sleuth Posts: 985 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Have we seen this one before?



    -Chris

    There's a street of lights

    A long dark night
    Restaurant scenes
    And dark machines...

  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    Have we seen this one before?



    I haven't seen this daybil image previously. The rare Australian one sheet of The House Of Fear ( 1945 ) features in the 
    Hershenson / Allen Archive though.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
    Lawrence
  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    Gorgeous.  I can't make out the daybill...MARCHANT?
  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    Gorgeous.  I can't make out the daybill...MARCHANT?
    It certainly looks like W.E.Smith Ltd. Sydney to me.



    The Australian one sheet of The House Of Fear I previously had poster has at the bottom the letter E missing from the ''A Universal Picture'' and the W.E.Smith Ltd. Sydney credit is only showing as ''W.E.Smi''.

    Lawrence
  • CSM_2_Point_0CSM_2_Point_0 Member, Super Sleuth Posts: 985 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Gorgeous.  I can't make out the daybill...MARCHANT?
    I am pretty sure it is the old reliable W.E. Smith too...
    -Chris

    There's a street of lights

    A long dark night
    Restaurant scenes
    And dark machines...

  • CSM_2_Point_0CSM_2_Point_0 Member, Super Sleuth Posts: 985 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Anyone ever seen an "Across the Pacific" daybill?
    -Chris

    There's a street of lights

    A long dark night
    Restaurant scenes
    And dark machines...

  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    Thanks...I meant the daybill, but I see you are right.
    Uncharacteristically photo like for WE Smith :)  Though could just be the image.
  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    Anyone ever seen an "Across the Pacific" daybill?
    No I haven't sighted a daybill image of Across The Pacific . This title is one of the approximately 57% of Humphrey Bogart feature films that he made between 1930 and 1956, where no Australian daybill posters have, to the best of my knowledge, been sighted.  


    Lawrence
  • CSM_2_Point_0CSM_2_Point_0 Member, Super Sleuth Posts: 985 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Thanks Lawrence - seems to me of his 40s/50s output it and They Drive By Night are the two significant ones missing 
    -Chris

    There's a street of lights

    A long dark night
    Restaurant scenes
    And dark machines...

  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector

    .CSM_2_Point_0 said:
    Thanks Lawrence - seems to me of his 40s/50s output it and They Drive By Night are the two significant ones missing 
    High Sierra and Treasure Of The Sierra Madre ? Unless you have these titles in your possession I have not aware over the years of any original release daybill copies existing. These two must be two of the most sort after Bogie titles that collectors are seeking. 

    I will follow up dealing with the missing Australian daybills soon.
    Lawrence
  • CSM_2_Point_0CSM_2_Point_0 Member, Super Sleuth Posts: 985 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    HONDO said:

    .CSM_2_Point_0 said:
    Thanks Lawrence - seems to me of his 40s/50s output it and They Drive By Night are the two significant ones missing 
    High Sierra and Treasure Of The Sierra Madre ? Unless you have these titles in your possession I have not aware over the years of any original release daybill copies existing. These two must be two of the most sort after Bogie titles that collectors are seeking. 

    I will follow up dealing with the missing Australian daybills soon.
    Of course you're right Lawrence.  And no I don't have them secretly hidden away ;)  

    When I wrote the above I was thinking more so NO paper turning up at all - there is a one sheet for Sierra Madre and of course the re-release daybill for High Sierra.  But as this is specifically a daybill discussion that was erroneous thinking!
    -Chris

    There's a street of lights

    A long dark night
    Restaurant scenes
    And dark machines...

  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    HONDO said:

    .CSM_2_Point_0 said:
    Thanks Lawrence - seems to me of his 40s/50s output it and They Drive By Night are the two significant ones missing 
    High Sierra and Treasure Of The Sierra Madre ? Unless you have these titles in your possession I have not aware over the years of any original release daybill copies existing. These two must be two of the most sort after Bogie titles that collectors are seeking. 

    I will follow up dealing with the missing Australian daybills soon.
    Of course you're right Lawrence.  And no I don't have them secretly hidden away ;)  

    When I wrote the above I was thinking more so NO paper turning up at all - there is a one sheet for Sierra Madre and of course the re-release daybill for High Sierra.  But as this is specifically a daybill discussion that was erroneous thinking!
    Yeah yeah...sure sure...cough em up!
  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector

    It All Came True ( 1940), Brother Orchid ( 1940 ) and They Drive by Night ( The Road To Frisco in Australia ) ( 1940 ) U.S.A. insert posters.

    These titles should  have been printed as long daybills by most likely Marchant & Co., but posssibly Hackett Offset are outside possibilities also. 



    High Sierra ( 1941 ) , The Wagons Roll At Night ( 1941 ), and Across The Pacific ( 1942 ) U.S.A. insert posters.

    High Sierra and The Wagons Roll At Night were released in Australia in the first half of 1941, so this should mean the two daybills would have been printed as long daybills and most likely by Marchant & Co.  Across The Pacicic would have been a 13'' x 30'' size version from Marchant & Co.




    The Treasure of The Sierra Madre ( 1948 ), Toyko Joe ( 1949 ) and In A Lonely Place ( ( 1950 ) U.S.A. insert posters.

    All three titles were most likely  printed by W. E. Smith.

    Of the 40 feature films that Humphrey Bogart appereared in that were released in the U.S.A. between 1940 and 1956 there are Australian daybill images available for 31 of them and the remaining missing 9 films are shown above in the closest form we will in have an idea of what the missing daybills may look like, the insert..

    An interesting fact is of the remaining Humphrey Bogart feature films that he made and that were released between 1930 ( his first feature film ) and 1939, from out of 34 films the only original film of his, from it's original release in daybill form, is the long daybnill of The Oklahoma Kid ( 1939 ).

    Now is the time to produce any Bogie daybill images of the nine titles that I have listed as missing or any of the 33 missing 1930's titles of his that isn't The Oklahoma Kid. One last thing is that I find it sad to think that the following daybill image is only one available of of the 34 Humphrey Bogart films that he made in the 1930's, and to makes things worse he isn't even pictured on the poster. 

     


    Lawrence
  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    In a Lonely Place...Chris posted a while back


  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    edited August 1

    Excellent Ves and thank you. Thought it looked familiar but I mustn't have kept a copy at the time, which I have certainly done now. Any others anyone? That completes the 1950's Bogie daybills then.
    Lawrence
  • CSM_2_Point_0CSM_2_Point_0 Member, Super Sleuth Posts: 985 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    In a Lonely Place...Chris posted a while back


    Oh hey good lookin'!  I should really see about getting you on the wall ;)
    -Chris

    There's a street of lights

    A long dark night
    Restaurant scenes
    And dark machines...

  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    Listen, send your Sweet Smell of Success down here to me so that I can appreciate on my walls ;)
  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector


    We now know these four Australian daybills existed in 1934, where they displayed at the Capitol Theatre. The big question is of course have they survived to this day, as to my knowledge none of the four have surfaced to date ? NIce looking long daybills by the look of them. Trimmed for display here.
    Lawrence
  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    edited August 3

    A couple more Ves that qualify for inclusion in  the ''Two different original styles of the same daybill designs'' thread.It certainly appears nowadays that  in the 1920's and the 1930's two different styles of  daybills were printed by Paramount, RKO and Universal at least. It is extremely hard to locate daybills for a film where the usual one design was printed let alone finding a second design.


    Lawrence
  • HONDOHONDO Member, Wizard of Aus Posters Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    edited August 5


     




    The Oklahoma Kid daybill from 1939 and now a glass lantern slide used in Australia on the first release also, that I thought was worth a view, as any Australian material from Humphrey Bogart's 1930's films is extremely rare. Unlike the daybill Bogie's image appears on the slide.


    Lawrence
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