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Hondo's Daybill and One Sheet Q&A [Re-Titled]

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  • edited September 2021
    Mark said:
    Similar style daybill to Assault on Precinct 13, first released in Aust c1980. Gloss paper is a dead giveaway of very late 1970s at earliest.
    Assault on Prencinct 13 was released in late 1979 in Sydney and Melbourne. As with the Frankenstein daybill no printer is credited.




  • Is this daybill of Frozen from 2013, advertised as being an advance teaser daybill 13'' x 26'' in size, perhaps the last known printed Australian daybill? 




  • Girl in a Million ( 1936 ) original titled  in the U.S.A. as being One in a Million Australian daybill  Sonja Henie stock posterl.

    Curious to know if anyone has ever seen an original Australian daybill for this film, along with any other examples where this Sonja Henie stock poster may have been used for any other film tirles?
  • I'll take 10 of the Split Second, Hitch Hiker & Second Chance daybills please!
  • I'll take 10 of the Split Second, Hitch Hiker & Second Chance daybills please!
    Wuss! Get some 6 & 24 sheets!
    Maybe someone with better knowledge of shillings & pents can do a price conversion on what 10 daybills cost in 1954.
  • HONDO said:


    Pancho said:
    It was relatively common in the late 70's / early 80's for horror and exploitation films to be released only with a daybill. A quick look through some of my press sheets shows these films as having no one sheet:

    * Madman.
    * The Black Room.
    * The Burning.
    * Satan's Mistress.
    * Island of Fishmen.
    * Zombie Holocaust.
    * Omen II.
    * Dead of Night.
    * City of the Living Dead
    Of the avove nine films 4 are from Hoyts, 2 x GUO, I x BEF and I x Filmways. Why these companies sometimes didn't print Australian one sheets for certain titlles is a mystery.

    For the remaining film from 20th Century Fox, although not listed on the Australian press sheet as you mentioned, I am confident that a U.S.A. printed international one sheet would have been used in Australia. This was common practice with the Hollywood majors around that period of time when an Australian one sheet wasn't printed. 

    The Damien Omen 11 ( 1978 ) international style A one sheet as appearing below when it was displayed in New Zealand for it's release there surely would have been used here in Australia as well one would have to think.

     


    As shown above it turns out after all that there actually was an Australian one sheet produced for Damien Omen 11, although not listed on the press sheet as being available.

    It now has me wondering then is it possible if any of the remaining eight titles that Pancho listed above, along with The Texas Chainsaw Massacre that I had previously mentioned earlier as not having a one sheet poster, did actually have an Australian one sheet printed and distributed here?

    Now to make things more interesting the following  Black Belt Jones ( 1974 ) Australian Roadshow press sheet has no mention of a 3 sheet, but as the below poster image shows there was a U.S.A. printed international 3 sheet that is stamped with the Australian R censorship rating that would have been used here.



     


  • I cannot locate on the forum the mention or mentions of how many daybills were estimated to have been printed in the heyday of motion picture distribution in Australia.

    The RKO posted invoice image shows ten of each title ordered, and there are eight for each title ordered on the United Artists invoice. 

    Taking into account  the number of daybill posters ordered for screenings in a small country town in Victoria and knowing the number of cinemas that were operating in Australia at that time, I am thinking more posters would have been printed than most likely mentioned eatlier on the forum.  Sixteen millemetre commercial and non-commercial screening usage would also need to have been included in the early estimates. 

    Does anyone know where I can find the previous forum discussion/s on this subject? Any new imput would be great also.


  • A guy who worked at The Film Centre in the 1980s told me 2-3000 daybills was the norm. His job was in the warehouse where all the posters were stored.
  • Mark said:
    A guy who worked at The Film Centre in the 1980s told me 2-3000 daybills was the norm. His job was in the warehouse where all the posters were stored.
    Thanks Mark for the imput. I am curious then as to when the 2-3000 norm was in play. To narrow in down was he talking 1980s then, and if earlier also what other decades?
  • edited October 2021
    He worked there in early 1980s. At that time cinema was battling the huge number of video stores that were popping up, hence the many re-releases. Compared to 1950s or earlier, I don't know what the difference would be. 
    Amalgamated would include 5 daybills with each 16mm film they hired out. That was their policy in the 1970s / '80s.
    My buddy who owned the Lithgow cinema would order 15 - 20 daybills at a time. At 10c each, was good biz to get extra supply, as they often ran out on popular titles. He told me UA was particularly tight with accessories. 
    Apparently 1000 x No Time to Die one sheets were destroyed last year. A fair number had already been distributed, so I am guessing modern posters are printed in runs of around 2000. We also get a lot of international posters coming in for some films.
  • If in the 1980's 2-3000 daybill print runs would be the norm, then the pre Australian televison days print runs had to be much much more in produced numbers then.

    The amounts printed from the 1960's onward had to be in decline due to a nunber of factors, Large amounts of cinema closures, starting in the late 1950's and increasing in numbers in the 1960's due to television factor. Then with the opening of multi-complex's in the 1970's, and to my thinking and memory didn't use daybills, or if they did few in number were displayed. The theatre poster displays concentrated mainly on one sheets. Anyone has any memory from attending multi-complexes in the 1980's? If anyone recalls which size posters were displayed please let us know?
  • Usual ratio for 1970s & '80s posters. About 10 daybills for every one sheet you see. Maybe more.
    Haven't looked in a long time, but Screen Aust site had some stats on Aussie cinema going back a while. 
  • If there are any more invoice examples from other distributors I wouldn't mind seeing them.

  • HONDO said:
    If there are any more invoice examples from other distributors I wouldn't mind seeing them.

    No, no, it just makes me want to weep!   :'(


    Peter


  • The film the patrons got to see at the Union theatre.
  • Has to be for a sixreen millimetre screening.
  • Thanks for confirming that the Boy's Town screeing gauge was 16mm. The sheep station venue gave it away for me.

    Regarding the three Union Theatre invoices they would all be 35mm.  The Wonthaggi Union Theatre, according to The Film Weekly Motion Picture  Directory1961-62  yearbook lists the 945 seater theatre as a 35mm venue.  
  • edited October 2021
        


      


       


     

    Some very rare Australian daybill and one sheet poster images that I don't remember seeing previously. They were auctioned under the title of ''Vintage Movie Posters And Day Bills'' by Albion Antique Auctuion Cenre in Brisbane  on October 14. 2021. The posters were from a deseased estatB

    If interested you can check out all the auction titles and price resukts on the auctioner's website link Catalog - VINTAGE MOVIE POSTERS AND DAY BILLS .You will find many other rare posters that in a lot of cases were  sold for well under retail prices. 



  • I had missed spotting this poster from the auction until now. This The Long Vovage Home ( 1940 ) trimmed long daybill is such a rare John Ford / John Wayne poster I decided to add it here. Poorly trimmed  and with another film design on the reverse side of the poster bleeding through certainly are distractions but still would be nice to own it.
  • Bloody hell, wish I had known about that auction.
  • My experience with local Aussie auctions is that they aren't interested in remote bidders. Generally they don't ship, or hold items while you make arrangements, which is understandable when they are selling hundreds of lots. You can end up winning one poster, then have to pay a small fortune for Pack & Send to pick up and ship to you. 
    Many of those posters are average titles. Just illustrates how rare pre-war Aussie posters truly are. There are literally thousands of them that no one has ever sighted before. Whenever a lot turns up there is amazement and intrigue, for about a week. Of course it does prove that some rare beauties are still out there waiting to be found. 
  • edited November 2021

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    A Yank In The R.A.F. ( 1941) Australian one sheet and an original U.S.A. one sheet.

    The question I ask here is why was the Australian poster designed with the large blank section appearing on the bottom of the poster?  There were other credits of supporting cast, producer, etc. information  that they could have used in this area.
  • Hondo, Is the blank space for dates and theatre name etc.?  Okie
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