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Non Reflective vs Standard

edited April 2016 in I Was Framed
I had a part conversation with a fellow collector, I won't use his real name,let's just call him "Matt" and let's just say he just got a new poster called Them! and is going to frame it, and add it to his rather impressive 50s B Grade framed poster wall collection. Yeah, let just say that...

Anyway, my preference is and always will be Non-Reflective acrylic glass (+100% UV protect), I am not that pretty so when I stand in from of my poster I don't want to see myself looking back. I realise there may be a slight difference in the look due to the non-reflective properties of the glass, but it's minor issue compared to the overall look I get. Besides at the end of the day, these posters are old, a little faded due to time, who's to say what the real colour is.

"Matt" on the other hand uses reflective glass based on the advice of his framer who says people are moving away from non-reflective because of the diffusion of the colour as a result of the non reflective process.

Thoughts


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  • In my Major Auction starting in a week, I have several excellent posters (including one real heavyweight) that were on walls for years and now are significantly faded.

    Is that worth the risk? How many people have rooms with no outside light at all?




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  • I'm no expert in this area-is it direct sunlight that fades paper/posters/prints/art? 

    Is any sunlight that enters a room damaging/harmful to a poster behind non-reflective glass?

    Is there harm from overhead bulb/industrial lights? 

    If I had a poster worth thousands, I'd make sure it's value was protected. 

    The paper I have framed does not fall into the above category and the few posters I've had framed are behind glass. One for 7+ yrs seems fine --it's been in rooms that get sunlight, but not direct sunlight-that would def be a no-no!
  • I don't have one frame with standard glass, it's got to be Non-reflect for me, as I want to see the poster not the surrounding room etc. Why would anyone use anything else??  
  • Oh, and as for them fading quicker, Bollocks. I've had some stuff framed for 10 years and they are perfect next to another one the same side by side...
  • Paul said:
    Oh, and as for them fading quicker, Bollocks. I've had some stuff framed for 10 years and they are perfect next to another one the same side by side...
    What do you mean by "fading quicker"? 
  • The question is non-reflective glass vs standard (reflecting) glass!
  • edited April 2016
    Ok as far as i know from chatting to a few framers non reflective still does not.block UV it just reflects light but UV still passes through (unless it has properties to emit UV). UV light causes fading. Does not need to be direct sunlight as uv can bounce off objects in the room plus certain types of UV produced by bulb and halogen light although not as damaging a sun light.

    All my frames are reflective as priorty for me was UV protection. But at the time i did not compare the cost  of UV plexi and UV plexi non reflect. For the next one i will as like to see the poster!

  • Good info Sven! I've seen paper fade from overhead uv lights & wondered if non reflective meant it blocked uv as well. 
  • Paul said:
    Oh, and as for them fading quicker, Bollocks. I've had some stuff framed for 10 years and they are perfect next to another one the same side by side...
    What do you mean by "fading quicker"? 
    I thought someone said non-reflect fades a poster quicker than standard glass, which is bollocks.

  • edited April 2016
    Actually the question was what is your preference, standard or Clear Glass (reflecting) vs Non Reflective glass.

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    Is the diffusion of colour that is caused by Non Reflecting Glass a deterrent so you prefer Clear Glass which returns a more pure/natural colour and look look? I choose the former but I also am very aware there are LOT of poster collectors who choose the latter.

    No choice is wrong, it is just a personal one. Luckily 'Matt' is fictitious character otherwise he would think I am having a go.  =)

    FYI Both Clear Glass and Non Reflecting glass are actually available with (or without) UV protection. 

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    There are lots of variables, took this off a framers site.

    Clear glass

    Clear float glass is the most common choice of glass for picture framing due to its availability and low cost. Clear glass will protect against dust and marks but provides no ultra-violet (UV) protection.

    Clear glass is used for reproduction prints, posters and artwork of little value or importance.

    Non-Reflective glass

    Non-reflective glass or non-glare glass is etched on one side to diffuse reflection. It is this non-reflective property that ensures you can see your artwork, even when hung in an area with lots of light. It is important to note that non-reflective glass does not reflect UV light and therefore provides no protection against UV light fading.

    Non-reflective glass is suitable for most reproduction prints, posters and artwork of little value or importance which is likely to hang on a wall with reflective light. It is not recommended for pictures with fine detail since some clarity is lost. This loss of clarity is further emphasised when the glass is spaced away from the artwork, such as when mat boards or spacers are used.

    UV Conservation Clear Glass

    Clear Conservation UV glass is used to protect art and objects of importance from fading when framed. The UV glass we use cuts out 99% of ultra violet light, protecting your valuable artwork from UV light fading.

    We recommend using UV conservation glass when the artwork being framed is important, valuable or irreplaceable.

    UV Non-Reflective glass

    Non-reflective Conservation UV glass has the same ultra violet protective properties as clear Conservation UV glass with the addition of an etched side to diffuse reflection.

    We recommend using non-reflective UV conservation glass when the artwork being framed is important, valuable or irreplaceable and is likely to be hung on a wall with reflective light.

    Museum glass

    Museum glass is the premium glass that offers 99% of UV protection and less than 1% reflection. Museum glass has the highest brightness and contrast levels available and an optical coating for true colour transmission. In fact, it’s near invisible!

    This premium museum glass is ideal for dimensional and object framing or when framing is spaced away from the glass, providing a non-reflective finish. 

    Acrylic

    Clear acrylic and non-reflective acrylic are suitable alternatives to glass, offering a lightweight and shatterproof option. As with standard clear and non-reflective glass, there are no UV protective qualities.

    Acrylic is a safe option for oversized frames or areas with safety concerns. It is not recommended for pastels or charcoals because of the static electric charge acrylic holds which can cause dust particles to stick to the surface and detract from the clarity of the image.

    UV Low Reflective Acrylic

    A low-reflective UV acrylic provides the ultimate glazing protection for picture framing;providing 99% UV protection and less than 1% reflection.

    Due to its lightweight and shatterproof nature, along with its anti-static properties, it is ideal for pastels and charcoal art work needing protection from ultra violet light and a non-reflective finish. It is for this reason that it is used in museums and art galleries worldwide.



  • UV filtered, non-reflective plexi is the way to go
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