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    Far From The Madding Crowd ( 1967 ). A 70mm Australian daybill version and a standard Panavision daybill version. 



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    The French Line ( 1953 ) Australian daybills. I thought i would include these images here  even though the two posters are of the same design. Interestingly the second example didn't receive  the red background circle treatment for the Suitable only For adults censorship rating..
  • edited November 2022
    I have removed an entry that I included here regarding Annie Get Your Gun daybills. This is due to realising that I had included this subject previously here on the forum.
  •   ( John )

    Two W.E. Smith Show Boat (1951) Australian daybills. Both appear to be first release posters, Any thoughts?


  • Does anyone happen to have a copy of this Australian Show Boat poster? I am hoping to establish the unreadable printer's name that appears on the above poster image.
  • 1 sheet - Offset printing Co.
  • darolo said:
    1 sheet - Offset printing Co.
    Thanks Dave,

    Then the following would have to be Offset Printing Co Pty Ltd Sydney then?


  • Yes. The first few words are hard to make out but Offset Printing it is.
  • The Jolson Story - two designs here. 

    The first one (left) was mine I consigned to Bruce a few years ago. The second one (right) is currently up for auction at Heritage. I think mine looks nicer. 

    Any thoughts on whether they're both original? I have my own thoughts.




    Peter
  • The one on the right "re-presents" so would be a re-release.
  • theartofmovieposters said:
    The one on the right "re-presents" so would be a re-release.
    I agree. 
  • Here is yet another version.




  • The Jolson Story ( 1946 ) original printed daybill produced for the Australian first release in 1947.


           

    1954 Australian newspaper advertisements.These are only two examples of numerous advertisements supporting that their was a 1954 major Australian re-release in that year..


     


    The 1954 Australian re-release daybill, followed by what what appears to be a late 1950's second printing that adapted the 1954 artwork. This second daybill was printed by F. Cunninghame who had ceased printing daybills and other film posters circa 1960.


     

    A post 1956 poster  printed  after Columbia Pictues had replaced W.E. Smith as being their main printers with Robert Burton. The only re-release  that could be located was in 1970 when the film was re-released in 70mm in major city cinemas and other 70mm outlets such as the Sundown drive located in Canberra in the A.C.T. One would have to think that a limited 35mm re-release also  would have taken place to cash in on the publicity gained from the 70mm re-release.

     Is this posters from the 1970 re-release, your thoughts? The poster certainly looks like it could have come from that period of time.
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  • There's also a red and blue version of the Jolson Story daybill printed by W.E. Smith Ltd. The first release one sheet has Larry Parks holding his hat in his right hand also printed by Smith.
  • Bruce said:
    Excellent research Lawrence!
    Thank you Bruce.

    Some backup information to my thoughts that the below earlier displayed daybill  was printed for a 1970 Australian re-release. 

     No logo.

     This particular style of Columbia Pictures logo appears to  only used on Australian posters between 1968 and 1970.  In 1970 the applying to Columbia Pictures posters of a logo was discontinued, and then no logo appeared on the Columbia posters.. The Jolson Story one sheet had the logo printed on it, but the daybill was printed logo free, during this change over period. 

     

    This poster and the daybill version having a  1970 re-release date certainly would have to be correct one would have to believe. 
  • darolo said:
    There's also a red and blue version of the Jolson Story daybill printed by W.E. Smith Ltd. The first release one sheet has Larry Parks holding his hat in his right hand also printed by Smith.
    Is it possible Dave to see the images of these two poster versions that you have mentioned?
  • Thanks John for the image. It has thrown some new light on things and changed my opinion on the printing order of the posters,



     

    The 1947 Australian released daybill, followed by a second printing by F. Cunninghame taking place sometime between 1947 and 1954, Thinking late 1940s.



     

    The Australian 1954 re-release daybill, followed by a second printing by F. Cunninghame taking place sometime between  1954 and 1960. Thinking mid to late 1950s.

  • HONDO said:
    darolo said:
    There's also a red and blue version of the Jolson Story daybill printed by W.E. Smith Ltd. The first release one sheet has Larry Parks holding his hat in his right hand also printed by Smith.
    Is it possible Dave to see the images of these two poster versions that you have mentioned?



    You mention Dave that there is a first release Australian one sheet with Larry Parks holding his hat in his right hand. The above one sheet printed by W.E.Smith has Parks holding the hat in his left hand. I had thought that this poster was from the original  1947 first release, so iIwould love to see an image, if possible of the poster you have mentioned.
  • The other 1 sheet I saw must be the rerelease as it wasn't as colourful as that one pictured there.
  •   darolo said:
    The other 1 sheet I saw must be the rerelease as it wasn't as colourful as that one pictured there.
    Thanks Dave. It sounds then that it was a second printing from the original Australian 1947 release, as I believe the below daybill version was.




  • Two first release Australian daybill posters printed for Soldier Blue ( 1970 ). This film was released in Sydney N.S.W. on the 10 / 6 / 1971. Both posters have a Not Suitable For Children Australian censorship rating printed on them. Three months later this rating was altered, and then became known as being NRC. This time span has to date them as both being printed for this release.

    Something that I do find interesting is the Australian censor's classification of Not Suitable For Children, and for not classifying the film as being Suitable Only for adults. The U.S.A. release was rated  R and the U.K. version was rated X. Comparing the running times for the film in the U.S.A. and Australia, they appear to be the same length, indicating little or no cuts were made for the Australia release.

     

    The film was edited later in the U.S.A. removing most of the film's bloody violent climax, to then show mostly reaction shots for a re-release in 1974. It was then given a PG rating. This much  now tamer version was classified by the Australian censor in 1976. This violence removed version was then given a stronger rating of M, the equivalent of the Suitable Only For Adults rating than that the earlier Australian release didn't receive.

    The late 1960.s re-release appeared to have received little in the way of bookings at all, One then has to wonder if there was a daybill printed for it at all, or they perhaps just used any left over stock, if any, from the earlier printed versions?
  • No photo description available Thanks Lawrence. I also have this video daybill


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    Two different Our Little Girl ( 1935 )  Montgomery Campbell Studio / W.E. Smith daybills.

       

    Two The Spiral Staircase ( 1946 ) Australian daybills. Same design in application with very slight variations. There are though different colour applications and censorship rating placements.

     First design credited to usual printer Simmons, but the second design is minus a printer's name credit. Being full bleed it certainly is most likely to also have been printed By Simmon as well one would have to think. 
  • The one on the right is far superior
  • HONDO said:


     

    What Price Glory ( 1926 ) daybill image that appeared in Everyones June 8, 1927 edition. The above daybill is one of four daybills produced by Fox for this film's release. This does have one wondering that during the 1920's, how many on average different styles were printed for each daybill.
    The above entry was originally included by me on this thread in September .2022. Since then the daybill posted image has disappeared.

     ( Everyones June 8, 1927 edition / Trove ).
    The original reinstated image. 

    The following image was kindly sent to me by Wil. No other details are available. The image is obviously though a scene from an unknown Australian theatre front of house foyer display promoting the film What Price Glory. What is interesting here is that there are four different designed daybills seen on display.

    Little is known about the 1920s daybills production , but in the 1930s two different designs of the same daybill appeared to have been printed often. Perhaps the bigger films received two designs rather than one, but who knows.


     ( Wil )

    Following are two expanded images showing the four styles of daybill designs on display.



    It would certainly be good to know if any other released films ever received more than two daybill designs printed for them?
  • Wow, that is impressive!  Don't think I know of any other film that had more than 2 daybills!  Awesome stuff.
  • WilWil
    edited January 2024
    IMDB have what appears to be an image of the upper two thirds of a US 3 Sheet. So, an example of how eye-catching the one on display would have looked. 

    It was also touted by Fox as being 'The World's Greatest Motion Picture', which could explain the four daybill designs (possibly a greater advertising budget than most).


  • HONDO said:

    The above entry was originally included by me on this thread in September .2022. Since then the daybill posted image has disappeared.

     ( Everyones June 8, 1927 edition / Trove ).
    The original reinstated image. 



     ( Wil )

    Following are two expanded images showing the four styles of daybill designs on display.



    It would certainly be good to know if any other released films ever received more than two daybill designs printed for them?


    It's interesting that the image from Everyone's doesn't appear to match the. actual lobby display. The text of "WHAT PRICE GLORY" is much thicker on the posters on display. perhaps the Everyone's example was from before they were printed?


    Peter
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