My latest restorations. The 77gsm masa paper works the best for me. Tha Alamo restoration came out perfect for me. The fold lines are barely noticeable.
My latest restorations. The 77gsm masa paper works the best for me. Tha Alamo restoration came out perfect for me. The fold lines are barely noticeable.
I was emailed that the company that makes the 77gsm masa aren't making the 'soft white' anymore.
Good work, for where you are at! Stick with it and you will keep getting better and better.
also, in the 'right' light, the work isn't so great... see:
I used a tiny brush with black watercolor... 'Dotting' and then tapping with a fingertip, like a Seurat painting.
Sarah, the professional restorer who's letting me shadow her (she doesn't do posters, but does books, litho's and paintings).... She said that nothing will ever be invisible, black is the hardest and I just need to practice more and learn (when she did it, you couldn't see it at all). She also said that other painting aside from water color would have been better, but you'd risk it not being a proper restoration...
I guess even bad work like this comes through your warehouse, eh Bruce?
I did four yugoslavian posters yesterday. Will post them when the retouching is done.
QUESTION:
Any tips for dealing with glossy / clay-based paper? All the wiki's just kinda state in a TLDR way: 'Clay based paper is recent and is hard to deal with... Don't bleach it.'
I'm guessing a decent wash with Orvis Soap and then Cal Hydroxide wash, skipping Cal Hypo? Or maybe an alternate to Cal Hypo (they're a few).
Some Yugoslav posters I did within the past two weeks... I wanted the Big Boss for my own wall, but every one that's seen it here wants it. May be priced to let it go
That said I learned the value of having spray bottles that can MIST... instead of lightly shooting... The Yellow Bruce Lee had an issue where the top layer of paper, was pushed away in some places. This meant very careful resto work needing to be done to get the paper back into place.
Also experienced some color bleed on Yellow, but solved that by using a very light gauche which was applied and then wiped away so it's effectively invisible even when reflecting off light -- in fact I'll probably try this technique again on a piece which needs it soon... Most the color though was done via water color and brush or water color pencils.
Anyway, here are the before and after (ready to be cut down).
(part of the work that was in progress re: the red... hadn't gotten to the yellow / green or rewetting the paper to shift it about a bit on the N)
I probably could have done more to erase the lines on the face (and on the Escape from New York poster) -- but I didn't want to completely hide them. Just make them more subtle and camouflaged. Cross between the 'euro style' and properly done... That said, when laying it down (this one in particular) it was really rough (i layed two posters down on one canvas)... in doing that I wasn't able to get it completely 100% smooth all the way around, thus the trio of minor fold lines on the lower left side... these were later burnished out with a mini heater that Sarah, the professional restorer uses (with a sheet of mylar between it as a buffer).
So. The other day I restored a new poster for Being There from 1979.
The final result is good but --...
During the process (specifically once Acetic Acid is sprayed on the Cal Hypo bleach mix), this bubbling occurs
Here's another pic of it:
At first I thought it may be something to do with the clay-based paper -- then I recalled this happened on the Yugoslav Bruce Lee poster as well... same point of the process... (see below)
Eventually, using sandwiched plastic sheets I was able to gently squeeze these out -- but one thing is for certain, that the 'top layer' of the poster is much more fragile and isn't adeared to the bottom later as strong as it was.
Question: why is this happening and what should be done to prevent it / fix it?
I sumize that perhaps it's Chlorine gas that's forming from the Cal Hypo and Asetic Acid in the paper and its trying to escape -- forming these pockets of air...
Or that either my Cal Hypo mix or Asetic Acid mix is too strong...
Any ideas or has anyone experienced this before? My Asetic Acid mix isn't too strong. I take 48% mix and dilute it until it's around 20%.
This is the one part of the Being There poster that suffered... It looks as if one area of the paper isn't affixed to the masa paper -- but it's actually the top layer of the poster itself that's a little loose...
Also that fold line you see below isn't even a fold line. I think it's where the paper split and gas (or water if it wasn't gas) escaped out of... Anyway it's an interesting conundrum and the paper wiki doesn't offer much so I figure I'd ask you all if you have any ideas as to causes, prevention and potential fixes?
Thanks a heap and happy new year!
PS: going down to Toulon next week because Affiche Francais are having an open house. Hope to see some great resto work and maybe gather some tips and tricks. Will keep you all posted
Question Justin; you state, “During the process (specifically once Acetic Acid is sprayed on the Cal Hypo bleach mix), this bubbling occurs”
Are you providing a good rinse of the poster after the Cal Hypo bleach spray? If not applying the Acidic solution straight to the poster which still contains a large portion of the cal hypo could cause that. Charlie could comment with more accuracy.
I always rinse my paper throughly before spraying with the acidic solution.
Latest “clay based” poster I’ve worked with was a 1985 Back to the Future. No issues.
My confidence on working with paper fills is growing. The top of this poster was gone as seen in the before poster. I was able to find a good match and fill in with water color paints.
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also, in the 'right' light, the work isn't so great... see:
I used a tiny brush with black watercolor... 'Dotting' and then tapping with a fingertip, like a Seurat painting.
Sarah, the professional restorer who's letting me shadow her (she doesn't do posters, but does books, litho's and paintings).... She said that nothing will ever be invisible, black is the hardest and I just need to practice more and learn (when she did it, you couldn't see it at all). She also said that other painting aside from water color would have been better, but you'd risk it not being a proper restoration...
I guess even bad work like this comes through your warehouse, eh Bruce?
I did four yugoslavian posters yesterday. Will post them when the retouching is done.
QUESTION:
Any tips for dealing with glossy / clay-based paper? All the wiki's just kinda state in a TLDR way: 'Clay based paper is recent and is hard to deal with... Don't bleach it.'
I'm guessing a decent wash with Orvis Soap and then Cal Hydroxide wash, skipping Cal Hypo? Or maybe an alternate to Cal Hypo (they're a few).
Very true! And black IS impossible to completely "restore", UNLESS you airbrush it all, which I hate, but some restorers love.
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That said I learned the value of having spray bottles that can MIST... instead of lightly shooting... The Yellow Bruce Lee had an issue where the top layer of paper, was pushed away in some places. This meant very careful resto work needing to be done to get the paper back into place.
Also experienced some color bleed on Yellow, but solved that by using a very light gauche which was applied and then wiped away so it's effectively invisible even when reflecting off light -- in fact I'll probably try this technique again on a piece which needs it soon... Most the color though was done via water color and brush or water color pencils.
Anyway, here are the before and after (ready to be cut down).
I probably could have done more to erase the lines on the face (and on the Escape from New York poster) -- but I didn't want to completely hide them. Just make them more subtle and camouflaged. Cross between the 'euro style' and properly done... That said, when laying it down (this one in particular) it was really rough (i layed two posters down on one canvas)... in doing that I wasn't able to get it completely 100% smooth all the way around, thus the trio of minor fold lines on the lower left side... these were later burnished out with a mini heater that Sarah, the professional restorer uses (with a sheet of mylar between it as a buffer).
Happy New Year!
You have been very helpful.
The final result is good but --...
During the process (specifically once Acetic Acid is sprayed on the Cal Hypo bleach mix), this bubbling occurs
Here's another pic of it:
At first I thought it may be something to do with the clay-based paper -- then I recalled this happened on the Yugoslav Bruce Lee poster as well... same point of the process... (see below)
Eventually, using sandwiched plastic sheets I was able to gently squeeze these out -- but one thing is for certain, that the 'top layer' of the poster is much more fragile and isn't adeared to the bottom later as strong as it was.
Question: why is this happening and what should be done to prevent it / fix it?
I sumize that perhaps it's Chlorine gas that's forming from the Cal Hypo and Asetic Acid in the paper and its trying to escape -- forming these pockets of air...
Or that either my Cal Hypo mix or Asetic Acid mix is too strong...
Any ideas or has anyone experienced this before? My Asetic Acid mix isn't too strong. I take 48% mix and dilute it until it's around 20%.
This is the one part of the Being There poster that suffered... It looks as if one area of the paper isn't affixed to the masa paper -- but it's actually the top layer of the poster itself that's a little loose...
Also that fold line you see below isn't even a fold line. I think it's where the paper split and gas (or water if it wasn't gas) escaped out of... Anyway it's an interesting conundrum and the paper wiki doesn't offer much so I figure I'd ask you all if you have any ideas as to causes, prevention and potential fixes?
Thanks a heap and happy new year!
PS: going down to Toulon next week because Affiche Francais are having an open house. Hope to see some great resto work and maybe gather some tips and tricks. Will keep you all posted
Are you providing a good rinse of the poster after the Cal Hypo bleach spray? If not applying the Acidic solution straight to the poster which still contains a large portion of the cal hypo could cause that. Charlie could comment with more accuracy.