M-G-M Logos Used On Australian Daybills In The 1960s.
The following is information on logos used on Australian daybills printed on the M-G-M posters between 1960 and 1969.
The years below are for the years films were released in the U.S. and the daybills I have sighted the logos on may have had a slightly different release date in Australia.
1960 to 1966 and in some cases later in the decade --- No logo used.
1962 --- M-G-M wording encased in blocks. Two versions of this style ( down & across with the lettering versions ) used in very limited titles.
1965 to 1967 --- Leo the lion in circle with extensions attached on either side of the circle.
1967 to 1969 --- Different style drawing of Leo the lion in circle only.
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Hey Hondo, reading the thread above, as I'm doing some research on some posters atm, I'd like to ask if you, or maybe any other forum members, can confirm the usage time period for the blue MGM logo on Australian posters?
You're suggesting this one was only used from 1967 to 1969 is that right?
The above blue MGM logo, with MGM characters to the left of the lion was definitely used in 1968 by Robert Burton.
But I have seen at least one other from 1970's (Kelly's Heroes daybills) and both first printing 1970, and a later 70's re-release, use the same lion head, just with MGM characters placed above the lion, one with periods M.G.M., later 70's without periods.
So, suggests the lion head circle logo continued to be used at least into the 70's?
Logopedia also suggests this logo was in use from '66-'82. But as you say, that may not align with actual use by printers in Australia.
So, with the research I'm doing, I would love any additional info from anyone that could help confirm if:
- Did Robert Burton use the MGM logo above, with no periods, and MGM name to left of the lion head, for only a short period of time? Or did they vary the placement of the 'MGM' characters based on space and artwork design? Does anyone have any poster examples to confirm this one way or the other?
- Likewise, is the use of periods in the M.G.M. characters by Robert Burton in the 1970 first release printing of Kelly's Heroes have any significance?
Or am I just pulling at straws :-) and the MGM logo for this period from '66 to '82 varied from designer to designer and poster run to poster run during this time?I look forward to any help anyone can provide. Thanks.
When I listed this 1967-1969 MGM logo
I am happy to look into when this logo was continued to be used in the 1970's and beyond for you. Give me a few days.
Are there any specific MGM Australian film poster titles that you are researching that I perhaps can assist you with?
I believe it is as shown L-R in the below image.
3 colours detailed, 3 colours less detail, 2 colours.
This film received very limited Australian release that commenced circa 1968.
Peter
( M.A.P.S. ) printed.
A non 70mm daybill version printed for the first release.
The 70mm version that had the logo printed on it.
One more M.A.P.S. printed MGM daybill poster that was printed without the logo.
Peter
The quality really went on a downhill spiral in the 1950's with the imput of the F. Cunninghame and Robert Burton printers leading the way,
A rare MGM Kansas City Confidential (1972) first release daybill that is minus a printer's credit.
In 1983 a new MGM logo appeared here on film posters. An example of this new logo appears below on the A Christmas Story (1983 ) daybill.
I'll keep exploring. Who knows, I may just find some evidence somewhere that may date these :-)
@HONDO, I read in another thread that you were going to be referred to an old employee from Robert Burton Printers that use to work there in the late 60's. Did you ever manage to make contact with that person? Wondering if they may be able to help?
I love your determination and I encourage you to continue to delve into this subject Sean, but the prospects of solving the release dates of the various 2001 A Space Odyssey printed daybills in question is seemingly to me impossible.
Robert Burton didn't retain records from that period of time. Any employees who may have been available to throw some light on the subject would now be difficult to locate, passed away or elderly, and in some cases their memory will not be as sharp these days. Finally only a limited number of Burton's employees that would have been involved with the 2001 A Space Odysses posters process would know anything anyway.
I have been researching the history of Australian film posters for a very long time and I can only say that the information and designs appearing on the daybills in question is insufficient to be able to help to 100% solve the order in which the various posters were printed in. At the moment it is only unconfirmed guessing as to the order as to when the three following posters were printed. The question for me is still which one of the three was printed for the first 1968 release and which of the remaining two were follow up printings?
One other thing is the following rare Australian one sheet is slightly different in design, so it doesn't seem to help assist, except to point to either the above first or second daybill being the first release one, This to me would rule out the third example. but again no proof. I am confident though that there would have been only one version of the one sheet printed.
My thoughts. Love to hear from any members who may agree or disagree with what I have had to say and for you express your thinking.