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Slightly Different Daybill Versions Of Same Design

Earthquake ( 1974 ) has two versions of the same design but with a few minor colour alterations including the NRC rating. CIC release posters with one being printed by MAPS and the other uncredited.

Escape From Alcatraz ( 1979  has two versions exactly the same except for the colour. CIC  releases with one printed by MAPS and one Robert Burton.

Airport '80 The Concorde ( 1979 has two versions exactly the same except for different colour usage and different censorship ratings. The MAPS version has a M rating and the Robert Burton one has a NRC rating. The film was originally given a NRC rating by the Australian Commonwealth censor in August 1979 and no amendments to this classification found. This means the Robert Burton version has the correct classification rating on it and MAPS version has the incorrect rating. CIC releases.

Jaws ( 1975 ) as mentioned on another thread recently has two versions of the same daybill with different coloured censorship classification ratings. CIC releases and both printed by MAPS.

There are other examples of similar printings also but the most interesting fact to come out of this is all the examples are from daybill posters from CIC.

One could ask the question of which poster was printed first and we will most likely never know but I intend to post an example shortly where I believe I  will be able to prove that a daybill of exactly the same design was printed first by MAPS then later by Robert Burton using the exact original  MAPS material.

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  • I've got three slightly different Blues Brothers daybills and three shades of Westworld
  • Rick said:
    I've got three slightly different Blues Brothers daybills and three shades of Westworld

    I know of five The Blues Brothers and three of Westworld. Bruce has a couple of Westworld designs marked as being probably 1970s re-release but I don't believe this to be so. All the three I would think are from the first release as I can find no record of a re-release in Australia or the U.S.A. and there is a record of Westworld being screened on television in Australia in 1977. Being between only three to four years from the Australian theatrical release to the television release I double a re-release would have happened within such a short space of time anyway.
  • HONDO said:


    Jaws ( 1975 ) as mentioned on another thread recently has two versions of the same daybill with different coloured censorship classification ratings. CIC releases and both printed by MAPS.

    On doing some further research I have found another two slightly different Jaws daybill designs.The poster background colours differ somewhat but I now have sited four different M censorship rating colours.

    MAPS Purple M

    MAPS Light Blue M ( I will call it light blue )

    MAPS Red M

    Robert Burton Red M

    Before this I would have thought as with Earthquake example that the different colours were to distinguish the different printers but with the Jaws discovery it is clearly not the case with the red censorship rating appearing on both MAPS and Robert Burton posters.

  • @hondo on the subject of Jaws, I don't suppose you'd know why MAPS failed to print their details on some Daybills? Both of these came from the same projectionist.




  • @hondo on the subject of Jaws, I don't suppose you'd know why MAPS failed to print their details on some Daybills? Both of these came from the same projectionist.




    We don't know that the were both printed by MAPS. All the posters would have been sent from Universal or CIC to New Zealand, sourced from a supply of Jaws daybills, that would at some stage or another comprised of MAPS, Robert Burton and the non credited printer, whoever that may have been. Whoever handled the poster distribution in New Zealand may have sent to theatres a mixture of printer's different style posters. Now my reason for thinking the non listed printers version isn't MAPS, is that the CIC logo is presented slightly different ( reversed ) on this poster than on the MAPS version.I suppose the non listed poster may have been printed by MAPS, but seeing so many posters from this period, consisting of numerous titles exist, I doubt MAPS would have left their printer's credit off posters so many times.
  • Ha.  I never noticed the logo before.  Doh!
  • Good eye Lawrence!  I honestly looked over both versions pretty closely and I completely missed the reversed logo  :s
  • Good eye Lawrence!  I honestly looked over both versions pretty closely and I completely missed the reversed logo  :s
    I know right!  What would be do without him!
  • You'll find the same on Rocky Horror Picture Show Fox logos, also MAPS 1975. I'm sure Hondo will be on it like a hawk! The single colour posters are RR.
  • Mark said:
    You'll find the same on Rocky Horror Picture Show Fox logos, also MAPS 1975. I'm sure Hondo will be on it like a hawk! The single colour posters are RR.
    Both The Rocky Horror Picture Show examples Mark mentioned have the same style 20th Century Fox logo printed on them, with the images facing in the exact same direction. The only difference is one has a white background and the other a black background. Both as mentioned were printed by MAPS. Good information to know but this doesn't alter my previous comments in any way regarding the non printer identified daybill of Jaws.
  • Pretty common to leave off printer details. Mad Max & Empire Strikes Back spring to mind straight away.
    The MAPS details would have been a separate template they added to the artwork on all posters.
    We'll never know, but I'd bank on all Jaws being MAPS printed.
    The sans serif Burton text on Jaws / Rocky etc is another matter ...
  • Mark said:
    Pretty common to leave off printer details. Mad Max & Empire Strikes Back spring to mind straight away.
    The MAPS details would have been a separate template they added to the artwork on all posters.
    We'll never know, but I'd bank on all Jaws being MAPS printed.
    The sans serif Burton text on Jaws / Rocky etc is another matter ...
    Over the decades there was a fair number of daybill posters printed without printer's credits appearing. Some examples are United Artists product  and the majority of sub-standard produced duotone posters from the 1950's and 1960's. 
    In the very late 1950's into the very early 1960's for 3 to 4 years the majority of United Artists daybills were printed  without any printer's credits appearing. Titles included The Magnificent Seven, The Vikings, The Alamo, Pork Chop Hill, Sweet Smell Of Success, On The Beach, Inherit The Wind,The Pusher, Macumba Love, Studs Lonigan, The Lost Missile,The Man In The Net, Ten Seconds To Hell,The Misfits,Never On Sunday,The Unforgiven, The Hound Of The Baskervilles, Noose For A Gunman , The Split, The Young Savages, The Devil's Disciple, and the list goes on and on. I sincerely doubt that the printer's name were accidentally left off all these posters. For whatever reason the printer decided not to include it is unknown. Following on the majority of duotone posters in the 1950's and 1960's were printed without any printer's credits. The point I am making here is that there were certain printers, that for whatever reason they decided not to have their details appear on film posters that they printed. On saying this I believe it is possible the daybills & also one sheets that were printed without printer's credits in the 1970's and 1980's may not have been MAPS.

    Mark said '' We'll never know, but I'd bank on all jaws being MAPS printed''. Did you mean all or just the purple background ones, because there was a blue background version printed by Robert Burton?

    Mark said ''The sans serif Burton text on Jaws / Rocky etc is another matter...''  As I am not into the technical / printing side of posters, so I am not sure about this comment in reference to the topic under discussion.

    One thing Mark And I do agree upon is most likely we will never know the answer, but it is good fun discussing the subject.
  • Well spotted Lawrence, I looked at these two for ages prior to photographing them and completely missed the reversed CIC logo. God you're good  ;)

    i had an argument with a guy at Christmas who was adamant that non MAPS example had to be a bootleg. If so they certainly went the extra mile adding the NZ snipe...  =)
  • It would be useful to know when the companies decided to change their branding. Below are the fonts I recognise starting from late 1960s (start of MAPS) to late '80s and end of production. Where two different printers are found this should help identify one being out of period.
    The bottom MAPS with bullet-hole logo seems to have only been used on one sheets.
    Please transfer this to another thread if necessary.






  • it is a pity some images of MAPS and Robert Burton  posters and their logos, appearing in some of my past past threads and probably other members as well, that may have helped here have since disappeared due to that villain Photobucket.
  • edited March 2018
    You can find them on HA pretty easy ...
    I reckon first MAPS runs 1968 - 1974. Makes Day Earth Stood Still RR post '74.
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    Mark said:
    You can find them on HA pretty easy ...
    I reckon first MAPS runs 1968 - 1974. Makes Day Earth Stood Still RR post '74.

    The problem is apart from myself and some others, a number of members never captioned their images, therefore with many missing Photobucket images I wouldn't have a clue as to the identity of the deleted images. I probably wouldn't need to go to Heritage of anyone else if the missing images were named as I most likely would have the images myself. Non captioning is a problem that continues to this day. It is like a book with only a part index available.
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