The Ugly Argentinian - The deal that broke my will to buy...
I want to tell a story about a Bad Argentinian and a Good Argentinian...
My first post will detail "The deal".
"The deal" was initiated on November 24th 2015 with a simple e-mail from a gentleman named:
Eduardo Nicolás Prinzo
e-mail: loner1975@hotmail.com
eBay ID: coolposter1975 (no longer a registered user)
His first e-mail was innocent enough:
I then proceeded to go through a selection of thousands of posters and sent off my list for prices...
December 1st 2015:
Hi Nick,
Now I have images of these and will post them tonight when I get back to the house. I want you to focus on this list:
These were all 1940s era posters that I could restore and make look like a million bucks. To make "The Deal" short and sweet, he comes back with prices and we negotiate a bit. He then goes silent for a few days... This should have been a sign of things to come. On December 9th 2015 I send him $482 for a batch of sweet Argentinian pulp... As I laid my head down thinking about this great batch of posters, I was excited...
December 9th, 2015:
My first post will detail "The deal".
"The deal" was initiated on November 24th 2015 with a simple e-mail from a gentleman named:
Eduardo Nicolás Prinzo
e-mail: loner1975@hotmail.com
eBay ID: coolposter1975 (no longer a registered user)
His first e-mail was innocent enough:
November 24th 2015:
I sold you in the past some argentinean movie posters a My Fair Lady and Modern times.
I sold you in the past some argentinean movie posters a My Fair Lady and Modern times.
Are you interested in movie posters? I go several on sale and I can send you a gallery of pictures, perhaps you'll find something of your interest.
thanks
Nick
I then proceeded to go through a selection of thousands of posters and sent off my list for prices...
December 1st 2015:
Hi Nick,
I finally made it through all the thumb nails...
Here is a list that I put together for prices:
Frou Frou
El Principio Del Fin
Historia de O
El Vampiro Sangreiento
La Invasion de los vampiros
Mash
Dirty Dozen
Buenos Noches ano Nuevo
El aw Casado
Un Hombre Fenomeno
Mi Adriente Timidez
Pale Rider poster
Animal house two sheet
Group Oct ii ( I really liked all the old ones up front 1-42)
Victoria por el Dominia Aero
Del Ciclo Bato un Estrella (Blue Skies)
Victoria en el Desierto
La Gerra la Gano Yo
Cita en la Fontera
Let me know...
Thanks,
Charlie
Now I have images of these and will post them tonight when I get back to the house. I want you to focus on this list:
Victoria por el Dominia Aero
Del Ciclo Bato un Estrella (Blue Skies)
Victoria en el Desierto
La Gerra la Gano Yo
Cita en la Fontera
These were all 1940s era posters that I could restore and make look like a million bucks. To make "The Deal" short and sweet, he comes back with prices and we negotiate a bit. He then goes silent for a few days... This should have been a sign of things to come. On December 9th 2015 I send him $482 for a batch of sweet Argentinian pulp... As I laid my head down thinking about this great batch of posters, I was excited...
December 9th, 2015:
Fine Charles, I will prepare you package and keep upadating to you the tracking info.
thanks a lot.
Nick
Flash forward 148 days later... I finally get the remaining posters owed to me not from the "Bad" Argentinian but from the "Good" Argentinian - my buddy, our friend and all around great guy, Matias...
Stay tuned for the juicy details... I've never really bashed a dealer before but this guy deserves everything he has coming to him.
Flash forward 148 days later... I finally get the remaining posters owed to me not from the "Bad" Argentinian but from the "Good" Argentinian - my buddy, our friend and all around great guy, Matias...
Stay tuned for the juicy details... I've never really bashed a dealer before but this guy deserves everything he has coming to him.
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So those were there but these were what I was excited about and why I made the whole deal:
Hi Charles,
I hope you started this new year fine.
Here the items are still on transit, little delayed on customs due to Christmas and new year.
Tracking is RR671987331AR
You will be able to see some changes once they release it, and appear as acepted.
The sent me a notification so I will update you.
Thanks a lot.
Nick
So finally I have a tracking number but WTF? 26 days later and it's stuck somewhere??? He did respond quickly to this one...
Hi Charles
Whew, everything is good right??? Well...
January 22nd, 2016:
Immediate Reply:
You are on fucking holiday??? It has been 44 days since I sent you $500 fucking dollars - I should have invested in mutual funds... But I play nice it probably is an honest mistake and this guy is not really a total fuck-up
Hey Nick,
Immediate Reply:
Hi Charles! Thanks!
Meh... But wait there is light at the end of the tunnel... He finally sends me a tracking number. Rejoice!!! (49 days after payment)
Hi Charles, Solved, within a couple of hours this will be updated on the web, check it on www.17track.net under the number mentioned wich is RR671987331AR Recently my credit card expired, and the had the old number so they can't charge me the shipping, that's becasue was frozen a couple of days. Sorry! I will be following this, let me know as soon you get it safe. thanks!!! Nick
But the only thing that accompanies excitement with this fuck-up is sadness, depression, and noose tying, slit my wrist, jump off a building - mental screaming inside "you mutherfucker!" thoughts...
58 days later...
Hey Nick,
More after tennis...
February 7th, 2016:
Hi Charles,
I just worte to Matias to explain, that it's possible the items are still here, because of a misplaced.
My unlce was in charge to add that older items in the envelope, he has over 4000 items, but he is getting old. Perhaps he forgot to include the items.
the envelope has signs to be opened by customs? here or there?
Don't be concerned, in the worst of scenarios, I will or refund, or replace that items for others of your interest.
Sendin the items to Matias or directly to you, shipping at my charge.
I know him since 6 years, he can spek about me, I won't fault you.
I will go to my uncles place to revise within his items, if were misplaced or forgotted there.
I will update you.
Sorry
thanks
Nick
Whew! Maybe I will get these posters after all....
Fuck!
February 16th 2016 (Now 69 days):
Can you at least acknowledge my e-mails to let me know we are still working this out?
So I open a paypal case... Maybe this will light a fire under his ass... It did!
February 16th, 2016:
Charles, why you have opened a case, and for te total of the purchase?
We are in contact and working to solve this also with Matias
I did that after you didn't respond for a week. No communication is the worst feeling for me... I'll take a look at it and close it. You know we are going on over two months now since I paid for the posters... 60 plus days is a long time to stay patient...
His response:
Hi Charles, I understand your concern, I was a little busy for my job, and taking look of the missed items, searching within several items the ones not included on the package.
OK so at least I am getting a free poster... I'll cave and retract the case - my last leg to stand on. Let's trust the "Good" Argentinian that this guy will come through...
Hi Charles, I believe yes, you can choosing other issue, like "item doesn't match to described"but won't be neccesary.
My Response:
Oh Shit...
Well I shouldn't regreat this!!! WTF I should have just nailed him for a refund. This clown... Wait here are a bunch of e-mails with some posters
It's a little disappointing that you are now trying to negotiate the price down. It is also disappointing that the best posters and only reason I was willing to make a deal have gone missing. I am now waiting for almost 90 days for you to deliver what you said you could. Are these the only posters you have to offer? Are you certain you can't find those older posters? Do you have a few premium titles you could offer? I don't see how trying to make me pay for your mistake is going to want me to buy more from you...
Fuck! He is going to fuck me... Shit titles all I wanted was the two Disney war posters. Fucking dumbass... What a mess.
Charlie, I mentioned that I need some time, you will get the images this weekend.
March 6th, 2016 (88 fucking days)
Check this links below, if you can't open them, let me know.
Alright maybe we can find some stuff that can make up for this shit... God dammit, never buying another fucking poster from some asshole that e-mails me out of the blue. Jackass...
Hi Charly,
My Response:
I tell you what I'll give you $85 for the other 8 items (Singing in the Rain, Birds x2, Star Trek Lobbies, San Francisco, and Marta, Valentino x 2) but after I receive them... If you are willing to send the posters first, I can pick out some more I had my eye on... If you are worried, Matias will vouch for me - I'm good for it. I just can't take the stress of tying more money up with you based on the current situation.
Fucker can't even spell my name right?!?!? I sign every fucking e-mail with "Charlie"... I mean hard hard is that... Now you want me to buy more posters from you to help you with shipping you fuck... Go fuck yourself. I should have just gotten a refund...
March 11th, 2016 (93 days):
Immediate Response:
Hi Charly,
Still can't spell my fucking name right - twit...
Six days have gone by. Have you shipped?
8 days have gone by since your last e-mail... 103 days have gone by since I sent original payment...
March 19th, 2016 (102 days):
ABOUT FUCKING TIME! It is spelled C H A R L I E... Well at lease I didn't have to pay shipping.
My Response:
I don't really give a shit but keep up a positive attitude. At least you are getting something. Thank God Matias was around...
Charlie, the package is on the way. It has the posters from Nicolas, and some others from me. I'm sure you can put some of them to good use.
Wait! He was suppose to cover the shipping to Matias... Fucked in the ass again by this piece of shit... Ooooohhh Matias is throwing in some freebies. Well at least I have that.
Me: Wait he charged you shipping?
Matias: Yep. The package had to be paid on pickup. He charged you for shipping?
Me: It was suppose to be free shipping... Shipping was paid on his first attempt. What an ass.
Matias: Well, I wasn't aware of that arrangement.
Let's do this, just send me the 43 usd of the international shipping. After all, I recommended you this guy (damned the day I did!), and you just had enough. He's definitely out of my "people to recomend" list.
Me: Nah... I'll send you the whole amount. But I reserve the right to plaster bad press about this guy all over the interwebz at this point...
Matias: You really don't have to. You've been of great help in the past, let me at least pay for local shipping. I feel bad already for recomending you this guy.
Holy Fuck! This is the gift that keeps on giving... Not Matias fault, got to send him the total...
Well at least that ended on a positive note... Pun intended! Having great poster buddies is what it is all about...
I'll try to snap some pictures for my May acquisition...
Don't buy from this fucker:
Eduardo Nicolás Prinzo
e-mail: loner1975@hotmail.com
eBay ID: coolposter1975 (no longer a registered user)
Wow! What a story! Good to have Matias close by to help close the deal!
And Charlie, you have the patience of a saint!
I would have imploded and filed with Paypal long before you did. The excuses were endless...
Btw...those last 5 Argentinean's, starting with Victory through Air Power are striking! Great artwork!
Oopps! My bad...sorry bout that...
I was selling posters on Ebay for 7 years, over 1200 feedback (100% positive) until I get bankrupted. You can see it on the last 10 negative feedback that result on refund in all cases.
I contacted you Charles, and we combine a deal, yes some posters were missed, and you replace that posters with other items that you picked, and toke a little advantage of the problem with items that worth more than 220 dollars (Amount of missed items). Also, Pale Rider poster, goes for free.
Just make your numbers.. you will se, was a pretty good solution for you.
You asked me, and Matias, to be him the person that solve this, and he wanted to receive and resend this items for you... and.... Matias.... was 3 posters as a gift for you, for your concern and mediate in this.
I believe you get mad becasue I didn't include in the package some stills mentioned, some of Valentino, that you offer 85 dollars. Not enough for me.
The items missed, showed up some days ago, were misplaced.
I don't really se here the problem, you recieve all that items, for 410 dollars... sounds a very good dear for you, I Believe.
Matias, creo que no te debo nada, si es asi hacemelo saber, lamento que vos te "prendas"en estas cosas, pero bueno, es tu eleccion.
Thanks...
Eduardo Nicolás Prinzo
e-mail: loner1975@hotmail.com
eBay ID: coolposter1975 (no longer a registered user)
Bought several dozen posters from him on eBay without incident. Had some coming to me and was approached to view some galleries. Worked out a deal on a package of additional posters. Then none of them arrived. He's been responding every now & then...similar excuses of bankruptcy, credit card problems, package tied up in customs and he can't pay to release it, etc, etc, etc. Roughly US$350 worth of paper. This goes back to items won on eBay in May of 2015.
I think I'm going to watch a Star Trek Movie tonight......wrong thread
I've now spent $537 ($482 + $55) to get about $200 of posters from my original purchase and yes about $280 in replacements. Simply because you were not willing/able to refund me. So I am running at a $55 loss right now - not a very good deal. I am not really mad about the transaction. Annoyed is more like it. There are two things in particular that I find rather frustrating.
1. The only way I can make a comparison is perhaps by using cars. You are the car dealer and I am the buyer. You ask me to come take a look at your inventory. I pick out
- 2 Ferrari,
- 2 Porches,
- 1 BMW 5 Series,
- 2 Ford Mustangs,
- 1 Camaro,
- Bunch of Honda Civics and
- Some accessories...
You say you'll throw in a few Honda Civics and some accessories if I take the lot. Deal! You say you will deliver them promptly and I pay you.58 days later I get
- 1 Ford Mustang
- 1 Camaro,
- Bunch of Honda Civics and
- Some accessories...
Now the Ferrari and Porches are missing. You offer in their place a bunch of Honda Civics... I ask for my money back, sorry it is spent. How about I pay for the destination charges? Fine. So my Civics arrive but you send them COD...10 Honda Civics do not equal a Ferrari... It may in terms of money but I was buying the Ferrari. I think what you may not understand is that you forced me to choose posters I didn't really want.
2. The second thing that was frustrating is that there never seemed to be a sense of urgency. I just dropped $482 on posters. A man going bankrupt would/should have done almost anything to keep me happy for repeat business. You seem to not really be worried about it - offering a single poor condition copy of Pale Rider for your mistake. Then you charge Matias shipping?!!? I have to then pay shipping that I already paid for... A reputable dealer would have probably refunded my money and send a few nice posters to make up the mistake. Hell the other day I sent a guy a free poster from his abandoned cart just because he had to spend $45 dollars on shipping.
58 days for the first package is just poor. 148 days to rectify it is just beyond reconciliation...
And of course to add insult to injury you have now found the posters, err Ferarri and Porches.
Whatever...
The saga continues...