Anyone else like to comment on the Ben Hur saga?. If nothing else is forthcoming over the next day or so I would like to move on to feature a rare 1920's Alfred Hitchcock related poster.
Anyone else like to comment on the Ben Hur saga?. If nothing else is forthcoming over the next day or so I would like to move on to feature a rare 1920's Alfred Hitchcock related poster.
It really does look like a trade ad to me. And it is certainly possible a trade ad was used as a poster when none were available. I would sure like to know the exact size.
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None of those 3 Ben Hur trade ads presented have any cast listed that I can see, just the main selling point - the title. I mean one would surely have the star (Novarro) listed, so the lack of in the Simmons poster has no bearing,. Also the Trader Horn has no cast on it.
Daybill believers are the owner ( per John ), Dave ( Darolo ) & Lawrence ( Hondo ). Non daybill believers Mark and Bruce.
Anyone other members like to commit to saying that they believe from all the information previously provided that it is or isn't a daybill? Love to know your thoughts?
Excellent research Lawrence, pity we don't know for certain. My final thoughts - Simmons Ltd printed film posters, cinemas displayed film posters and a cinema indisputably did in this case. Either that occurred OR Simmons printed something that looks like a film poster (but isn't) and a cinema displayed what met their needs as a film poster (even though it isn't) and were obviously fortunate in having on hand something that was an ideal match - such a good match that it's fooled the owner of the only known copy.
Apart from physically measuring the Ben Hur poster in question, and seeing we now have confirmed that Australian press sheets were printed as far back as circa 1918, another extremely unlikely long shot possibility would be to sight an Australian Ben Hur press book. Mission impossible I would have to think to accomplish this though so back to the best option of having the poster measured, which is also unlikely, so let each of us just stick to our beliefs of what style of poster Ben Hur is and be happy with that. Will another copy ever surface one has to wonder though?
Wil forwarded me the following image only recently and I had planned to use it here, even mentioning my intention to do so on a couple of occasions, but it was delayed due to the lengthy Ben Hur discussions.
I had been advised by Wil that it was o.k. to use it here, but in the meantime he has included it on facebook, so for those that haven't see this poster image I have decided to include it here now.
White Shadows ( original U.K. title The White Shadow ( 1924 ) New Zealand unimposing printed daybill. What makes this poster of significant importance is the major imvolvement of Alfred Hitchcock. Hardly any original The White Shadow poster material is available to see today. I call it a Hitchcock film due to the fact not only was he the
assistant director but is also credited by IMDb as being the film editor,
production designer, art director, set decorator and also the writer. Wikipedia credits Hitchcock as being an uncredited director as well as being an uncredited writer. He
certainly was a busy man then whilst working on this film.
A rare original poster of the film in colour.
1924 Australian Sydney newspaper advertisement showing that the film was screened here as The White Shadow where the original U.K. title was used, unlike in New Zealand where the U.S.A. title was applied there.
Sometime in the 1990s on one occasion when I visted a second bookshop in Bowral N.S.W., I spotted a box on the floor under one of the book display stands, To by delight I discovered that the box contained hundreds of Australian movie press sheets. From memory they were mostly from the 1930s, with a large amount of them being printed for British made films. I probably spent about a half an hour or more checking them all out. What a tresure trove of information was sitting in this box, but unfortunately all the material in the box was in poor condition. In some stage of their life they had been subject to being exposed to a large amount of water damage.
Thinking anout this significant material, I decided to call the bookshop to see if they per chance still had this material in their possession. I doing some digging I was I was able to contact the owner of this bookshop that I had visited The owner who is in a new shop now, informed me that these premises, along with many others had been burnt down in a fire that had destroyed all his stock last year.He was unaware who the owner would have been in the 1990s. One has to wonder what happened to this rare material, probably a once in a lifetime gathering of 1930's pressbooks.? Today there is hardly a 1930s Australian pressbook to be seen.
Chris: Thanks for pointing out the uncut daybills. It's interesting to me they are different movies. My instinct would have guessed same movie would have been printed together. Do you have any uncut daybills in your collection?
Hondo: Ah, the pressbook library that might have been, eh?!
Call Of the Wild ( 1935 ). This was the last film released under the 29th Century Pictures banner before it merged with the Fox Film Corporation in 1935 to form 20th Century Fox. Prior the the merger 20th Century had released their eighteen produced films through United Artists between their inception in 1933 until 1935. The above poster is the only daybill image seemingly availabe to view in colour showing the two 20th Century and United Artists logos appearing together.
Les Miserables ( 1935 ) black and white copy of the original Australia daybill with the two 20th Century and United Artists logos printed on the poster.
The other remaining sixteen 20th Century / United Artists released films are as far as I can see nowhere to be seen.
The article was actually aimed mainly for those who perhaps hadn't see it previously. I am sure there would be a number that fall into that categorory. I had also thought there would be some other members that wouldn't mind seeing the images once more.
Now for some images that most likely haven't been seen previously by members.
Kissing Cups Race ( 1920 ), Long Odds ( 1922 ) and The Sport Of Kings ( 1921 ) New Zealand trimmed long daybills courtesty of Wil. All these three posters of British productions are extremely rare, and I would think that they most likely are the only copies of these posters that exist today.
Finding any other existing poster artwork for these films from throughout the world is very difficult, if not a near impossible task to accomplish.
( FamousFix )
The above U.K. image of what appears to me to be a glass lantern slide of Kissing Cup's Race is all that I have been able to locate for any advertising material other than the N.Z. posters.
There were sixteen Jungle Jim feature films released by Columbia Pictures between 1948 and 1956. Discounting various duotone daybill versions, I have located original colour daybill versions of twelve of the sixteen titles. The four missing original colour title daybills are Jungle Jim ( 1948 ), Mark Of The Gorilla ( 1950 ), Fury Of The Congo ( 1951 ) & Killer Ape ( 1953 ). If anyone has any of these titles or perhaps just images please post them here
( Theodore Bruce ).
Jungle Jim ( 1948 ) daybill image, and the first in the Jungle Jim series has just surfaced. Only three remaining images to now locate.
I am certain that we have discussed the following
two subjects here somewhere at some time or another on two forum threads.
Unfortunately though, after conducting a lot of searching I am unable to locate
anything at all.
The subject matters were Roadshow Distributors
doing some of their own poster printing and whether or not John Richardson did
all of his daybill poster artwork or not?
I really would like to revisit and reread these
previous discussions, so can anyone help in locating these threads that discussed
these particular subjects?
The following, to my knowledge, is the only daybill image sighted for this extremely rare and mostly unknown film. This image of this particular poster has only recently appeared on IMDb. The film is The Fatal Night ( 1948 ) a British horror / thriller film originally running only a short 50 minutes in duration. Seeing the film was given a Suitable Only For Adults rating, and it appears to have taken some time to reach our shores, it may have been possibly censored in Australia, thus running shorter in length when screened here.
Any U.K. posters are it appears non existance as far as I can see.
The only screenings that I could locate of it playing in Australia was at the Curzon Cinema in Adelaide S.A. in 1954.
To establish the first release date in Australia has been impossible to accomplish. I have listings of quoto-length features ( 5,000ft. or more ), but as this film doesn't fall into this category there isn't any listing for this film.
Horrors Of The Black Museum ( 1959 ) U.K. three sheet. This poster is credited on Pinterest as being an Australian daybill, The film was banned in Australia and was never screened theatrically here. The above poster is actually a U.K. three sheet.
Mr. Deeds Goes To Town ( 1936 ) Australian press sheet.
( Wil / The Film Poster Gallery ).
Passport To Fame ( original U.S.A. title The Whole Town's Talking ) ( 1935 ) Australian one sheet.
Australian press sheets from the 1930s are extremely rare and seldom turn up, so what a joy for these two examples to amerge for these Frank Capra and John Ford titles. Interestingly the Mr. Deeds Goes to Town title had two daybills and two one sheets printed for them, including a special one sheet printed with gold.
At least if we never get the see the actual Aistralia posters we are at least thankfully able to see that they looked like.
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The Ben Hur poster in question.
Daybill believers are the owner ( per John ), Dave ( Darolo ) & Lawrence ( Hondo ).
Non daybill believers Mark and Bruce.
Anyone other members like to commit to saying that they believe from all the information previously provided that it is or isn't a daybill? Love to know your thoughts?
I had been advised by Wil that it was o.k. to use it here, but in the meantime he has included it on facebook, so for those that haven't see this poster image I have decided to include it here now.
White Shadows ( original U.K. title The White Shadow ( 1924 ) New Zealand unimposing printed daybill. What makes this poster of significant importance is the major imvolvement of Alfred Hitchcock. Hardly any original The White Shadow poster material is available to see today. I call it a Hitchcock film due to the fact not only was he the assistant director but is also credited by IMDb as being the film editor, production designer, art director, set decorator and also the writer. Wikipedia credits Hitchcock as being an uncredited director as well as being an uncredited writer. He certainly was a busy man then whilst working on this film.
A rare original poster of the film in colour.
1924 Australian Sydney newspaper advertisement showing that the film was screened here as The White Shadow where the original U.K. title was used, unlike in New Zealand where the U.S.A. title was applied there.
Thinking anout this significant material, I decided to call the bookshop to see if they per chance still had this material in their possession. I doing some digging I was I was able to contact the owner of this bookshop that I had visited The owner who is in a new shop now, informed me that these premises, along with many others had been burnt down in a fire that had destroyed all his stock last year.He was unaware who the owner would have been in the 1990s. One has to wonder what happened to this rare material, probably a once in a lifetime gathering of 1930's pressbooks.? Today there is hardly a 1930s Australian pressbook to be seen.
Call Of the Wild ( 1935 ). This was the last film released under the 29th Century Pictures banner before it merged with the Fox Film Corporation in 1935 to form 20th Century Fox. Prior the the merger 20th Century had released their eighteen produced films through United Artists between their inception in 1933 until 1935. The above poster is the only daybill image seemingly availabe to view in colour showing the two 20th Century and United Artists logos appearing together.
Les Miserables ( 1935 ) black and white copy of the original Australia daybill with the two 20th Century and United Artists logos printed on the poster.
The other remaining sixteen 20th Century / United Artists released films are as far as I can see nowhere to be seen.
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Rare cinema posters found being used as carpet underlay | Daily Mail Online
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Now for some images that most likely haven't been seen previously by members.
Kissing Cups Race ( 1920 ), Long Odds ( 1922 ) and The Sport Of Kings ( 1921 ) New Zealand trimmed long daybills courtesty of Wil. All these three posters of British productions are extremely rare, and I would think that they most likely are the only copies of these posters that exist today.
Finding any other existing poster artwork for these films from throughout the world is very difficult, if not a near impossible task to accomplish.
The above U.K. image of what appears to me to be a glass lantern slide of Kissing Cup's Race is all that I have been able to locate for any advertising material other than the N.Z. posters.
Jungle Jim ( 1948 ) daybill image, and the first in the Jungle Jim series has just surfaced. Only three remaining images to now locate.
Catalog - The Brumpton Collection | Mid 20th Century Movie Daybills
I am certain that we have discussed the following two subjects here somewhere at some time or another on two forum threads. Unfortunately though, after conducting a lot of searching I am unable to locate anything at all.
The subject matters were Roadshow Distributors doing some of their own poster printing and whether or not John Richardson did all of his daybill poster artwork or not?
I really would like to revisit and reread these previous discussions, so can anyone help in locating these threads that discussed these particular subjects?
Some details on the film.
The Fatal Night (1948) - IMDb
Any U.K. posters are it appears non existance as far as I can see.
The only screenings that I could locate of it playing in Australia was at the Curzon Cinema in Adelaide S.A. in 1954.
To establish the first release date in Australia has been impossible to accomplish. I have listings of quoto-length features ( 5,000ft. or more ), but as this film doesn't fall into this category there isn't any listing for this film.
Horrors Of The Black Museum ( 1959 ) U.K. three sheet. This poster is credited on Pinterest as being an Australian daybill, The film was banned in Australia and was never screened theatrically here. The above poster is actually a U.K. three sheet.
Mr. Deeds Goes To Town ( 1936 ) Australian press sheet.
Passport To Fame ( original U.S.A. title The Whole Town's Talking ) ( 1935 ) Australian one sheet.
Australian press sheets from the 1930s are extremely rare and seldom turn up, so what a joy for these two examples to amerge for these Frank Capra and John Ford titles. Interestingly the Mr. Deeds Goes to Town title had two daybills and two one sheets printed for them, including a special one sheet printed with gold.
At least if we never get the see the actual Aistralia posters we are at least thankfully able to see that they looked like.