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Australian wartime 10 X 30 daybills.

HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector
edited June 2015 in The '40s

What interest is there in the small 10 x 30 daybills? The subject is not discussed very often. I have researched this topic for many years and have a lot of information to share that I would think would be interesting for you to know about.

Before I commence  supplying information on this topic I would like to hear from anyone with what they know about 10 X 30 daybills .For example why all the duotone daybills, why a few weren't Richardson designs, what printers were involved, when were they printed, why did most of the 10 x 30 daybills printed for Paramount also have a 13 x 30 daybill design as well, either in colour or duotone, and so on?

John has previously published some excellent information on this topic on his website but I would like to expand on this.

I will refrain from saying anything for the time being to see what comes forward and perhaps a few images of the better !0 X 30 daybills would be appropriate.


Hondo

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    Is there evidence to suggest it was not just a paper saving/rationing exercise?  4 posters to a sheet vs. 3 etc...?
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector
    edited June 2015
    CSM said:
    Is there evidence to suggest it was not just a paper saving/rationing exercise?  4 posters to a sheet vs. 3 etc...?

    No evidence on why it was done but if it was a paper saving / rationing exercise why wasn't it adapted by all the other film distributors active at the time other than the only two who distributed daybills in this format. Hondo
    Lawrence
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector

    Seems like virtually no interest in talking about10 x 30 Australian daybills. Shame as there are some great examples such as Double Indemnity, Gaslight, & So Proudly We Hail among others.


    Hondo

    Lawrence
  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    I didn't comment cause I have no idea either...always thought it was rationing...I do have some I can post.  let me go see..
  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector

    Here is what I have handy...

    imageimage

    image

    The second is obviously not a wartime size, but threw it into the mix for discussion!

    imageimage





  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector

    Thanks Ves for your examples.  I believe the duotone was also printed during the war but more of this later.


    Hondoi

    Lawrence
  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector

    I believe the 10 x 30.


    Hondo

    Lawrence
  • DavidDavid Member Posts: 10,308 admin
    I don't have any and I too also believed (and see the logic) in it being rationing, that is you can get one more poster out of a sheet 13" wide = 3 posters, 10" wide = 4 posters.
    David
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector
    edited June 2015
    David said:
    I don't have any and I too also believed (and see the logic) in it being rationing, that is you can get one more poster out of a sheet 13" wide = 3 posters, 10" wide = 4 posters.


    All sounds very logical but why only selective printing of the smaller daybills by Paramount & MGM the only Australian distributors doing this format.

    When the war years are discussed for this style of daybill what years do you you think we are talking about?

    Why were 13 X 30 daybills also produced in mainly black & white but also colour for a great many of the Paramount films and to a lesser extent MGM of the same titles during the period of the 10 x 30's?

    Why were some of the 10 x 30's Paramount film posters not produced by Richardson?

    Let's hear some thoughts?


    Hondo

    Lawrence
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter

    Hope John won't mind me posting his work here (meant to before but slipped my mind):

    http://www.ozefilm.com/wartime-daybills/


  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector

    John has up to this time been the only person who has published some background to the 10 x 30 wartime daybills and he must be congratulated on doing this. I have been researching this subject for a very long time and eventually hope to publish in detail more information on this subject including the printers involved and the exact period as far as possible the posters were released..The more I delve into it the more fascinating it becomes.

    At the moment I need some information. John or anybody who has a copy of the Lost Angel MGM 10 x 30 1943 daybill would you mind checking it and advising the name of the printer?


    Hondo


    Lawrence
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector

    Here is a question for you. Does anyone have a duotone daybill in a 13 x 30 in the same similar style of a 10 x 30 full colour daybill  from MGM and only MGM  not Paramount?


    Hondo

    Lawrence
  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    Nothing here I'm afraid.
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector

    Thanks for looking anyway.


    Hondo

    Lawrence
  • JohnJohn Member, Dealer Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter

    Just back from another buying trip. Its amazing how much information has come out in just the last few days on Australian posters. Re Hondo's query, I sold Lost Angel a long time ago and only have a small picture which doesn't show printers details.

    image



    John

  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector

    Thanks John. On magnifying the image it  appears there possibly was a

    printer's name on it but for whatever reason one cannot read it. Very odd..


    Hondo



    Lawrence
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector




    HONDO said:




    Thanks John. On magnifying the image it  appears there possibly was a

    printer's name on it but for whatever reason one cannot read it. Very odd..


    Hondo








    I have since discovered Offset Printing Co. was the printer of the Lost Angel daybill.


    Recently I decided to further research the 10 x 30 daybill size once more. With what I have discovered so far the information acquired will be a little different from what many people probably think about the length of the period of time in which this size poster was printed. The number of individual titles printed, the Australian distributors involved, and where the duotone versions fit into the picture in 10 x 30 printing, along with 13 x30 duotone versions of the colour versions, will hopefully fill in a lot of gaps regarding this short lived poster size. I have no idea when I will complete this project but it is something I have always been keen to look into and to compile and eventually pass on my findings.

    Lawrence
  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    I keenly await findings.   Always wanted to know more about these oddities. 
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector
    The forthcoming information regarding Australian wartime 10 X 30 daybills I intend presenting soon, will now appear on Hondo's This And That Thread over a period of time in a number of parts commencing soon.
    Lawrence
  • dedeposterdedeposter Member Posts: 48 ✭ Mexican Lobby Carder
    HONDO said:
    The forthcoming information regarding Australian wartime 10 X 30 daybills I intend presenting soon, will now appear on Hondo's This And That Thread over a period of time in a number of parts commencing soon.
    You should write a book!
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector
    HONDO said:
    The forthcoming information regarding Australian wartime 10 X 30 daybills I intend presenting soon, will now appear on Hondo's This And That Thread over a period of time in a number of parts commencing soon.
    You should write a book!
    I have thought a few times over the years of accomplishg this task, but I never got around to it.  What numbers of  interested people would  purchase a specialised book covering Australian film posters enough to enthuse me to attempt such a big task? Very limited numbers I am afraid. Thanks for the suggestion though.

    Lawrence
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector
    Please now refer to the Hondo's This And That Thread for all future information on this subject.
    Lawrence
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