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  • Interesting that the poster hasn't been fully restored. Notice that the "T" is missing in the top tagline and looks like part of the top border area is missing on both sides. The artist appears to be Julian Rose. I can't recall ever seeing this daybill before so I think it will do well at auction.
  • HONDO said:
    No worries Bruce.

    While I am here I will make a comment on the Hitler Beast of Berlln super rare Australian long daybill. You will notice the spelling of Alan Ladd's name as being that of Allan Ladd. More on this later.


    Weird!  On the one sheet is one L


  • John said:
    Interesting that the poster hasn't been fully restored. Notice that the "T" is missing in the top tagline and looks like part of the top border area is missing on both sides. The artist appears to be Julian Rose. I can't recall ever seeing this daybill before so I think it will do well at auction.
    There have been some rather nice long daybills listed of late which unfortunately had crappy backing...shame.  
  • Those Hitler posters are amazing.
  • edited July 2024
     (Trove)
    An Australian country NSW 1940 cinema newspaper advertisement with the correct Alan Ladd spelling appearing on it.

    My explanation on why the two spellings of Ladd's name on Australian advertising occurred shortly to follow, along with the comparisons between Australian and U.A. artwork.
  • My thoughts on the Hitler The Beast Of Berlin poster and advertising artwork printed for the U.S. and Australian markets. 

    The original U.S. press books and other promotional material had Allan Ladd incorrectly printed on them. The two press books I located have two spellings of Allan and Alan on them. The poster images pages has on the 3 styles depicted the Alan Ladd spelling is printed on them. What looks like the front page has Allan Ladd appearing on it.


     

    The U.S. original one sheet, half sheet and the 8x10 posters all have the correct Alan Ladd spelling printed on them, along with the poster image section page printed on the press books. 

     
     
    Now to the Australian posters .The one sheet and the newspaper add were copied from the U.S. source with the correct spelling of Alan, while the daybill was obviously copied from the incorrectly spelt name publicity material.

    Some comments on comparisons between the U.S. and Australian artwork to follow soon.
  • There is a big difference between the U.S. and the Australian poster artwork.

     
    The above American artwork interestingly doesn't feature an image of Hitler, the subject of this film. The artwork is very mild considering the content of the film.

    The following Australian poster images content features an image of Hitler, and flogging scenes depicting the brutality that was happening in Germany under Hitler.

     

               (Trove)
    An actual image from the film.
  • This is one of those instances where the Australian blows away the U.S. paper!




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  • edited July 2024
                             I am very curious about the Nazi swastika image placement on the daybill. Firstly it is reversed in it's placement, and it appears to be coming through from the back of the poster.
  • I had thought with so many members regularly handling posters, on a regular basis that hopefully someone would offer their opinion. regarding my swastika inquiry.
  • edited July 2024
    HONDO said:
    I had thought with so many members regularly handling posters, on a regular basis that hopefully someone would offer their opinion. regarding my swastika inquiry.
    My thought is that perhaps whoever did the artwork reversed it without realising it was incorrect. It was 1939 so perhaps they weren't that familiar with what a swastika should look like. 


    Or could they have been working with a publicity still that had been reversed, like this 8 x 10? 




    Peter
  • Now, not a question for Bruce, but an answer about who this is on the poster. It's not Boris Karloff as speculated but is actually Richard Neil who plays the prisoner. He doesn't get released from his cell until Chapter 9 so the artwork for Chapter 6 is a bit premature. There also isn't a scene exactly like this in the serial.




    Richard Neil in the credits.


    Richard Neil in the serial (Chapter 9)



    The image on the poster




    Peter
  • HONDO said:
    I had thought with so many members regularly handling posters, on a regular basis that hopefully someone would offer their opinion. regarding my swastika inquiry.
    My thought is that perhaps whoever did the artwork reversed it without realising it was incorrect. It was 1939 so perhaps they weren't that familiar with what a swastika should look like. 


    Or could they have been working with a publicity still that had been reversed, like this 8 x 10? 


     Another usage of the incorrect version of the swastika below.


    Great find and both your thoughts Peter made sense.

    Although it appeared the swastika had been reversed on the 8x10 still the scene is exactly as it appeared in the film. I have just checked out the film on Google and the incorrect reversed version of the swastika was used throughout the movie. This would then explain the application of this version on the extremely limited U.S. posters  that featured a swastika on them.

    If the reversed version of the swastika was copied from material like this, I have to wonder why then was the image printed so lightly on the daybill, 

    As the Australian one sheet poster has the correct swastika printed in dark black, and with dripping dark red blood colour, and is well positioned boldly on the poster, one has to also wonder that seeing both the daybill and the one sheet were printed by W.E.Smith, why the major differences in the swastika presentation took place. 

    My thoughts are that the one sheet was printed much later when it was realised that the earlier swastika version had been a mistake .Was another amended Australian daybill ever printed does cross my mind?
  • Peter, if you have not already, please email us this info to matt@emovieposter.com so he can correct it. And many thanks for solving this mystery!

    Peter wrote:
    Now, not a question for Bruce, but an answer about who this is on the poster. It's not Boris Karloff as speculated but is actually Richard Neil who plays the prisoner. He doesn't get released from his cell until Chapter 9 so the artwork for Chapter 6 is a bit premature. There also isn't a scene exactly like this in the serial.




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  • I'll email him now!


    Peter
  • Anyone else like to make a  comment on this Hitler Beast of Berlin subject. Love to hear your thoughts.
  • HONDO said:
    Anyone else like to make a  comment on this Hitler Beast of Berlin subject. Love to hear your thoughts.
    Your analysis makes sense to me!




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  • Bruce said:
    HONDO said:
    Anyone else like to make a  comment on this Hitler Beast of Berlin subject. Love to hear your thoughts.
    Your analysis makes sense to me!
    Thanks Bruce, and much appreciated,
  • This is from Bruce's latest Major auction:

    Important Added Info: Note that we have never before auctioned this Argentinean poster! The poster includes an image of a tiny lady in a test tube, and we have not seen the movie, but we can't find any reference to a scene like this in it! Was it just something the poster artist added? Also note that the unknown Argentinean poster designer clearly got confused when drawing the credits, because actor Sidney Blackmer somehow became the director, displacing George Sherman!




    There are some test tubes in the film, but placing the lady inside one was probably only a poetic licence by the poster designer




    As for the credits, the designer obviously was VERY confused the day he worked on this poster. He didn't only displaced the director's name. The title is also wrong. "El alma y el monstruo" translates as "The soul and the monster". In most of these that I have seen (including my copy) a snipe was placed to correct the error with the literal translation of the title: "La dama y el monstruo"



  • The U,S,A. 3 sheet has the woman in the test tube image printed on it.


    The above Spanish herald has a much larger image of the woman in the test tube appearing on it. It has the correct director's name George Sherman printed on it. One thing we can't blame the Argentlnean poster artist for then is the lady in the test tube image.  

    Interestingly the Spanish released film title is La Mujer Y El Monstruo, while when was released in Argentina and Mexico the title was La Dama Y El Monstruo.
  • To add more confusion, "La Mujer y el Monstruo" was also the spanish title for "Creature from the black lagoon"


  • And to add to the confusion an Argentinian film poster with El Monstruo De La Laguna Negra  being it's title.

     


  • Man, how famous is West Plains, MO?  

    I just bought the Edgar Rice Burroughs Library of Illustration by Russ Cochran… all the letters are addressed from Main St. West Plains, MO.  I’m guessing you knew him well. It’s a beautiful set of books. Been reading a little on him and he seemed like quite an awesome collector publisher.


  • He loved Tarzan and EC Comics. I did the very first EC comic reprints (12 issues of East Coast Comix in the early 1970s) and then Russ reprinted every issue in a zillion formats!

    I "knew him well" starting in 1969 and decades later I married his daughter and had 5 children (his grandchildren).

    As Bill Gaines (publisher of EC comics and Mad) said when he heard of the marriage, it was a twist ending worthy of an EC story.

    So yes, West Plains MO is the home of two important figures in the comic book hobby!




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  • Well then… Holidays must have been fun - sorry for your loss. I am now remembering some stories you might have posted on fb. Just didn’t put it all together the other day. 

    Would have been excited to share with him how lovely and well done these Boroughs books are. As I am sure many did. You can just see the love he put into them.
  • Russ Cochran had some great vintage Tarzan posters. He also had framed an original King Kong 1 sheet
  • darolo said:
    Russ Cochran had some great vintage Tarzan posters. He also had framed an original King Kong 1 sheet
    More importantly, he had 3 real chimps living in his house!




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  • The above images are of three daybills that are included in a bulk lot  of fourteen Australian daybills that you have currently have up for auction.

    As you don't retain  any title records of these bulk lots Bruce, I thought that you may like to know that the above three daybills are extremely rare. You have no records of selling any of these three titles individually in the past. It is possibly of course that you may have previoulsly included them in post bulk lots, but if you did I never picked up on this. 

     I just thought that you may like to know this information, and also to let possible buyers that they can pick up some rare titles in the bulk lots from time to time.
  • I learned long ago that rare doesn't always mean valuable.  Some films are best left forgotten.
  • jayn_j said:
    I learned long ago that rare doesn't always mean valuable.

    True. The sentence is specially sweet when one finds a poster nobody else cares about, but you crave,
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