A "warehouse find". If the price keeps dipping, we will discontinue it as an individual item. But as long as the girl keeps skinny dipping, the price may not keep dipping!
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These "warehouse finds" are sometimes of very old posters as well - There's a glut of copies of 1930's 1 sheets for the serials King of the Wild and Phantom of the West out there, in top condition too. These are U.S. 1 sheets. In daybills there was a job lot (dozens) of the Australian film Clara Gibbings that sold at auction a couple of years ago.
i appreciate the comments received from Bruce, Mark and Dave regarding '' warehouse finds'', .and I will respond shortly with some more thoughts on this subject.
The large number of The Freedom Riders daybill I do find interesting and I will express my opinion regarding ,this poster as it is certainly a bit of a mystery.
New Zealand has been a great source for warehouse finds. There have been some massive collections that have come up over the years including one that I acquired in the 1990s. It actually took me about 5 years to get it all back to Australia. The good thing about some of these warehouse finds in NZ is that they often included multiple US one sheets, British One sheets, one stops, etc.
I remember Freedom Riders, as I see it every time I search Aust on EMP! Most I have ever seen of a single title is around 100 (Batman Returns db & Attack Force Z 1sht). There are a lot of South Pacific dbs & programs out there. My buddy told me it played at The Mayfair in Sydney for 10 years continuous. If you look closely, there is a difference in the rating triangle colour on the daybill. Some programs have in Todd AO.
When I posted this topic i was hoping it would create some good feedback from members. This certainly has turned out to be the case with some interesting input received from Bruce, Mark, Dave and John, which I actually do agree with.
"'Warehouse finds'' is certainly the answer. Bruce mentioned And I would estimate the number of such titles to be far less than 1% of all titles. They just stand out because they are offered so often. I would agree to this number.
My thoughts on the Australian scene are that film posters up to the 1960's were not considered to be of much value. Years ago I spoke to a former employee of Universal-who worked in the Sydney branch, who informed me that left over posters were disposed of in bulk by taking them to a dump site. Even in some cases, as late as the 1990's, film posters were still being discarded.
Why so many copies of The Creature Walks Among Us exist today and not the other two earlier versions I guess we will never know for sure,
John's comment on New Zealand being a great source of warehouse finds is interesting. I have found also over the years that a good number of Australian daybills are found today only in the printed for N.Z. non Australian censorship versions
Now regarding The large amount of The Freedom Riders daybills existing today. Bruce has 100 images appearing on his website. There are two styles available. 56 are the yellow style and 44 are the black version.
The Australian Classification database which includes classified films starting in October 1971 have on their website no record of a film of this title ever being classified in Australian in any format. Keep in mind that this film is credited as being a 1972 release. On speaking to a person at the Australian Classification office I was informed no record in any form is in their records regarding this film. Not any of the 100 daybills have a censorship rating printed on them
Why were two impressive versions of the poster printed by major printer M.A.P.S.? After all it was just an Australian independent surfing documentary film advertised as being released by Associated Screen Arts . and these genre films were usually only filmed on 16mm.
I cannot locate any information on any screenings taking place in Australia, and almost no details on the film itself. More to follow shortly regarding other Associated Screen Arts surfing genre daybills.
Endless Summer started out as 16mm independent screenings in Aussie surf clubs. Wasn't until later when Columbia took over distribution that it went to 35mm and posters were produced. There are a number of obscure surfing posters I've seen that have surf clubs details, presumably 16mm.
HI ! Not too much to say, as ussual, but, about "The Free Riders" film, I found out George Greenough live in Australia, have a Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Greenough) and also a website (http://www.georgegreenough.com) where I can see his P.O.Box, so, someone, closer to him than me (I'm exactly in the other side of the globe), can contact with him directly to ask for more details . I just saw also have a website about his films (www.greenoughfilms.com). Cheers !
Fantasea "84 (!984 ) Australian daybill. Another Associated Screen Arts distributed documentary surfing film. Bruce previously sold a total of 127 daybills of this title. There were 69 individual poster images, a bulk lot of 18 copies, and another bulk lot of 40 copies ( currently no images available ). This total of 127 daybills of an Australian daybill must place it at the very top.
Interesting for the 65 single daybills sold only 13 were fully folded and 52 were unfolded.
Now reverting back to The Freedom Riders and the two style daybills sold previously by Bruce. Interestingly the 56 yellow style versions are all credited as being unfolded, while the black style are all shown as being fully folded.
MGM's St. James Theatre Sydney was closed 20 Match 1971. On 25 March 1971 the entire contents of the theatre were put up for auctiion. I believe that this auction also included thousands of MGM and RKO back catalogue Australian film posters which included many multiple copies of each of the film posters that were included in the lots up for auction.
Before I comment any further I would like to hear from anyone that has any details in any form regarding this auction? Is anyone able to confirm that MGM and RKO back catalogue poster titles were included in the auction? Almost nothing has been located by me regarding the full contents of this auction.
At some time this year I am hoping to be able to view the actual Auction catalogue.
On 25 March 1971 the Contents of the St. James Theatre in Sydney, prior to the theatre being demolished were placed up foe Auction.Two catalogues under instruction from Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer were printed for auction by F.R.Strange Auctions who were major Auctioneers and Valuers at that period of time.
I am trying to confirm that large quantities of MGM and RKO Rafio Inherited film posters were also included in the Auctions. Many years ago I was informed that this was the case, but to date no proof of this happening has come to light.. All I have been able to confirm is that the entire contents of the theatre were part of the Auction.
I am aware of a huge box of posters consisting only of MGM and RKO posters, many with duplicates, being sold in the late 1980's.The contents mainly consisted of 1940's and 1950's daybill in mainly excellent condition, Some posters though had minor water damage.s. There were a small amount also of Australian MGM one sheets and three sheets. I believe that this haul originated from the St. James Auction. There were also many RKO daybills advertised in the 1980's for mailout sales that were despatched with extra fold/.s. applied to the posters enabling the sender to post them out in smaller sized packaging.
The following daybill titles were includrd in the earlier mentioned box of posters that I believe were included in the St.James Auction. I have included with the poster titles the number of 10 and over sold posters that Bruce has sold and are included in his Auction history records.
Rancho Notorious. Bruce has previously sold 45 copies. Regularly turns up in the market place also. Cry Danger. Bruce has previously sold 25 copies. This daybill regularly appears in the market place. Tarzan And The Slave Girl. Bruce has sold 19 daybills previously. A common poster that turns up regularly. Payment On Demand. Bruce has previously so'd 16 copies.This poster also regularly is advertised for sale. Ransom. Bruce has previously sold 13 copies Many other copies exist. Rodan! Bruce has sold 10. Numerous copies exist for this title. The Picture Of Dorian Gray. Bruce has sold previously 11 copies Commonly seen over the year up for sale. The Merry Widow. 10 sold by Bruce in the past. Currently available for sale on eBay Slightly Scarlet. 10 also sold by Bruce previously. Currently available on eBay from three sellers.
The box that I previously mentioned contained MGM and RKO films from the period 1946 to 1957. Some of the other titles from memory that were included in the box were The Outlaw ( 1952 rr ), Joan Of Arc, Stromboli, Texas Lady, Love Me Or Leave Me, Killers From Space, Lady And The Tramp, Jet Pilot, X... The Unknown, Pearl Of The South Pacific, Escape From Burma, Naked Sea, Interrupted Melody, Treasure Of Pancho Villa, Back From Eternity, The Bad And The Beautiful, The Actress, The People Against O'Hara, Androcles And The Lion, Diane, Forever My Darling, Knights Of The Round Table, Clash By Night, Beau Brummell, and Run Of The Arrow.These are just a small amount of the titles. Somewhere stored away I am lucky enough to have a complete list of the full contents of the box.
All of the daybill film titles included in the box, with the exception of Killers From Space and Lady And The Tramp, which are very rare, and Guilty, which to my knowledge has never surfaced, have been sighted regularly over many decades.
Killers From Space ( 1954 ) and Lady And The Tramp ( 1955 ) rare Australian daybill images of similar posters that were included in the box.
Interesting, in the box were multiple copies of the Guilty! ( 1956 ) daybills. Above are images of a U.S. insert poster, and also a three sheet poster of Guilty? Between the two images they should indicate what an Australian daybill may look like. There apparently were 49 daybill copies of the Guilty? poster included in the box, yet no images have ever surfaced on Google or anywhere else to the best of my knowledge..
Not included in the box but most likely originating from the St.James auction the 1955 RKO film Wakamba! I have sighted many years ago a beautifully designed full colour Australian daybill with extra folds. The daybill was superior in design and colour compared to the below Wakamba! U,S, insert design. The daybill was striking in it's looks and similar in style to the following Australian daybill of Africa Adventure ( 1954 ), which also was also included in the Box.
An African Adventure Australian daybill, alongside the less attractive looking original U.S. insert poster version..
The following Spartacus ( 1960 ) Universal International Australian daybill wasn't included in the St.James Sydney auction. It is included here because it is a very commonly seen poster in the marketplace, an this certainly has been the case for many decades. Bruce for example has sold fifty copies of this daybill in the past, and seller Col Porter had multiple copies years ago.
( John )
This has been the only Australian daybill version of Spartacus that until now that I have ever sighted. The following two daybills images have recently turned up on ebay.com.au. Both versions were printed for a re-release.
Australian daybill printed for the Australian 1970 re-release.
An Australian duotone daybill also printed for the re-release , but it would appear post November 1971 due to the new censorship presentation.
I am wondering if anyone has ever sighted these two re-release versions prior to this year?
The Corpse Grinders ( 1971 ) Australian daybill. This film was classified by the Australian film censor on 1 November 1973. This film was classified with a R18+ rating.. Interesting With all the various images that I have seen of this film poster none have a classification rating appearing on them.
If anyone has this daybill I would like to hear if it has a rating printed on the poster or not?
Room at the Top ( 1958 ) original Australian one sheet film poster with a rare ''Adults Only Children under 16 Not Admitted'' censorship rating appearing on it. To back this up a 1959 newspaper advertisement placed in a Canberra A.C.T. newspaper advertising a ''Special ""A" - Children Under 16 Not Admitted'' censorship rating.
Interestingly the Australian daybill was only printed with the normal Suitable Only For Adults censorship rating applied to it.
One has to wonder if any attempt with cinema owners to enforce the children under 16 ruling ever took place or not?
Once upon a time in Australia there were Midnight Movies screenings of horror and science fiction films. They are now a thing of the past. From newspaper advertisements placed in Adelaide S.A. in 1952 I thought you may enjoy the above programming details.
Two Metropolis ( 1927 ) Australian daybills thought to be the only known copies to be in existence.
The following are the descriptions that accompanied the daybills on the Heritage website.
Robotrix Style Daybill
….. had professional restoration to address missing paper at the imprint area and along the bottom border, including copyright information.
Flood Style Daybill
…. after professional restoration has addressed missing paper at the top in the imprint area and along the bottom border, including the copyright information.
Those descriptions surely would then indicate that the entire text at the bottom of both posters was added by the restorer, possibly as a “best guess” from other Cinema Arts posters. If indeed all the copyright details were missing, and this information did come from other Cinema Arts posters one has to wonder how accurate it would then be,
According To NFSA, Cinema Arts operated in Australia in the period 1927 - 1932. From my extensive research of all my twenty seven Cinema Arts daybill images that I have, there were at least eight different variations of copyright information presentations. These included five different printing companies. Taking into account that there were no other examples of these two daybills to copy the exact information from, how then would we know for sure that the correct details were added to the restored posters? Just asking. a question that springs to mind.
Those descriptions surely would then indicate that the entire text at the bottom of both posters was added by the restorer, possibly as a “best guess” from other Cinema Arts posters. If indeed all the copyright details were missing, and this information did come from other Cinema Arts posters one has to wonder how accurate it would then be,
According To NFSA, Cinema Arts operated in Australia in the period 1927 - 1932. From my extensive research of all my twenty seven Cinema Arts daybill images that I have, there were at least eight different variations of copyright information presentations. These included five different printing companies. Taking into account that there were no other examples of these two daybills to copy the exact information from, how then would we know for sure that the correct details were added to the restored posters? Just asking. a question that springs to mind.
The posters were definitely trimmed on all sides leaving only the artwork intact.
Surprised no responses forthcoming. I was certain some comments would be forthcoming. due to the popularity of this film previously along with the interest shown in poster restoration on this forum over many years.
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The large number of The Freedom Riders daybill I do find interesting and I will express my opinion regarding ,this poster as it is certainly a bit of a mystery.
Most I have ever seen of a single title is around 100 (Batman Returns db & Attack Force Z 1sht).
There are a lot of South Pacific dbs & programs out there. My buddy told me it played at The Mayfair in Sydney for 10 years continuous. If you look closely, there is a difference in the rating triangle colour on the daybill. Some programs have in Todd AO.
"'Warehouse finds'' is certainly the answer. Bruce mentioned And I would estimate the number of such titles to be far less than 1% of all titles. They just stand out because they are offered so often. I would agree to this number.
My thoughts on the Australian scene are that film posters up to the 1960's were not considered to be of much value. Years ago I spoke to a former employee of Universal-who worked in the Sydney branch, who informed me that left over posters were disposed of in bulk by taking them to a dump site. Even in some cases, as late as the 1990's, film posters were still being discarded.
Why so many copies of The Creature Walks Among Us exist today and not the other two earlier versions I guess we will never know for sure,
John's comment on New Zealand being a great source of warehouse finds is interesting. I have found also over the years that a good number of Australian daybills are found today only in the printed for N.Z. non Australian censorship versions
Now regarding The large amount of The Freedom Riders daybills existing today. Bruce has 100 images appearing on his website. There are two styles available. 56 are the yellow style and 44 are the black version.
The Australian Classification database which includes classified films starting in October 1971 have on their website no record of a film of this title ever being classified in Australian in any format. Keep in mind that this film is credited as being a 1972 release. On speaking to a person at the Australian Classification office I was informed no record in any form is in their records regarding this film. Not any of the 100 daybills have a censorship rating printed on them
Why were two impressive versions of the poster printed by major printer M.A.P.S.? After all it was just an Australian independent surfing documentary film advertised as being released by Associated Screen Arts . and these genre films were usually only filmed on 16mm.
I cannot locate any information on any screenings taking place in Australia, and almost no details on the film itself. More to follow shortly regarding other Associated Screen Arts surfing genre daybills.
Fantasea "84 (!984 ) Australian daybill. Another Associated Screen Arts distributed documentary surfing film. Bruce previously sold a total of 127 daybills of this title. There were 69 individual poster images, a bulk lot of 18 copies, and another bulk lot of 40 copies ( currently no images available ). This total of 127 daybills of an Australian daybill must place it at the very top.
Interesting for the 65 single daybills sold only 13 were fully folded and 52 were unfolded.
Now reverting back to The Freedom Riders and the two style daybills sold previously by Bruce. Interestingly the 56 yellow style versions are all credited as being unfolded, while the black style are all shown as being fully folded.
Before I comment any further I would like to hear from anyone that has any details in any form regarding this auction? Is anyone able to confirm that MGM and RKO back catalogue poster titles were included in the auction? Almost nothing has been located by me regarding the full contents of this auction.
At some time this year I am hoping to be able to view the actual Auction catalogue.
On 25 March 1971 the Contents of the St. James Theatre in Sydney, prior to the theatre being demolished were placed up foe Auction.Two catalogues under instruction from Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer were printed for auction by F.R.Strange Auctions who were major Auctioneers and Valuers at that period of time.
I am trying to confirm that large quantities of MGM and RKO Rafio Inherited film posters were also included in the Auctions. Many years ago I was informed that this was the case, but to date no proof of this happening has come to light.. All I have been able to confirm is that the entire contents of the theatre were part of the Auction.
I am aware of a huge box of posters consisting only of MGM and RKO posters, many with duplicates, being sold in the late 1980's.The contents mainly consisted of 1940's and 1950's daybill in mainly excellent condition, Some posters though had minor water damage.s. There were a small amount also of Australian MGM one sheets and three sheets. I believe that this haul originated from the St. James Auction. There were also many RKO daybills advertised in the 1980's for mailout sales that were despatched with extra fold/.s. applied to the posters enabling the sender to post them out in smaller sized packaging.
The following daybill titles were includrd in the earlier mentioned box of posters that I believe were included in the St.James Auction. I have included with the poster titles the number of 10 and over sold posters that Bruce has sold and are included in his Auction history records.
Rancho Notorious. Bruce has previously sold 45 copies. Regularly turns up in the market place also.
Cry Danger. Bruce has previously sold 25 copies. This daybill regularly appears in the market place.
Tarzan And The Slave Girl. Bruce has sold 19 daybills previously. A common poster that turns up regularly.
Payment On Demand. Bruce has previously so'd 16 copies.This poster also regularly is advertised for sale.
Ransom. Bruce has previously sold 13 copies Many other copies exist.
Rodan! Bruce has sold 10. Numerous copies exist for this title.
The Picture Of Dorian Gray. Bruce has sold previously 11 copies Commonly seen over the year up for sale.
The Merry Widow. 10 sold by Bruce in the past. Currently available for sale on eBay
Slightly Scarlet. 10 also sold by Bruce previously. Currently available on eBay from three sellers.
All of the daybill film titles included in the box, with the exception of Killers From Space and Lady And The Tramp, which are very rare, and Guilty, which to my knowledge has never surfaced, have been sighted regularly over many decades.
Killers From Space ( 1954 ) and Lady And The Tramp ( 1955 ) rare Australian daybill images of similar posters that were included in the box.
Interesting, in the box were multiple copies of the Guilty! ( 1956 ) daybills. Above are images of a U.S. insert poster, and also a three sheet poster of Guilty? Between the two images they should indicate what an Australian daybill may look like. There apparently were 49 daybill copies of the Guilty? poster included in the box, yet no images have ever surfaced on Google or anywhere else to the best of my knowledge..
Not included in the box but most likely originating from the St.James auction the 1955 RKO film Wakamba! I have sighted many years ago a beautifully designed full colour Australian daybill with extra folds. The daybill was superior in design and colour compared to the below Wakamba! U,S, insert design. The daybill was striking in it's looks and similar in style to the following Australian daybill of Africa Adventure ( 1954 ), which also was also included in the Box.
An African Adventure Australian daybill, alongside the less attractive looking original U.S. insert poster version..
The following Spartacus ( 1960 ) Universal International Australian daybill wasn't included in the St.James Sydney auction. It is included here because it is a very commonly seen poster in the marketplace, an this certainly has been the case for many decades. Bruce for example has sold fifty copies of this daybill in the past, and seller Col Porter had multiple copies years ago.
This has been the only Australian daybill version of Spartacus that until now that I have ever sighted. The following two daybills images have recently turned up on ebay.com.au. Both versions were printed for a re-release.
Australian daybill printed for the Australian 1970 re-release.
An Australian duotone daybill also printed for the re-release , but it would appear post November 1971 due to the new censorship presentation.
I am wondering if anyone has ever sighted these two re-release versions prior to this year?
The Corpse Grinders ( 1971 ) Australian daybill. This film was classified by the Australian film censor on 1 November 1973. This film was classified with a R18+ rating.. Interesting With all the various images that I have seen of this film poster none have a classification rating appearing on them.
If anyone has this daybill I would like to hear if it has a rating printed on the poster or not?
Room at the Top ( 1958 ) original Australian one sheet film poster with a rare ''Adults Only Children under 16 Not Admitted'' censorship rating appearing on it. To back this up a 1959 newspaper advertisement placed in a Canberra A.C.T. newspaper advertising a ''Special ""A" - Children Under 16 Not Admitted'' censorship rating.
Interestingly the Australian daybill was only printed with the normal Suitable Only For Adults censorship rating applied to it.
One has to wonder if any attempt with cinema owners to enforce the children under 16 ruling ever took place or not?
Once upon a time in Australia there were Midnight Movies screenings of horror and science fiction films. They are now a thing of the past. From newspaper advertisements placed in Adelaide S.A. in 1952 I thought you may enjoy the above programming details.
Two Metropolis ( 1927 ) Australian daybills thought to be the only known copies to be in existence.
The following are the descriptions that accompanied the daybills on the Heritage website.
Robotrix Style Daybill
….. had professional restoration to address missing paper at the imprint area and along the bottom border, including copyright information.
Flood Style Daybill
…. after professional restoration has addressed missing paper at the top in the imprint area and along the bottom border, including the copyright information.
Those descriptions surely would then indicate that the entire text at the bottom of both posters was added by the restorer, possibly as a “best guess” from other Cinema Arts posters. If indeed all the copyright details were missing, and this information did come from other Cinema Arts posters one has to wonder how accurate it would then be,
According To NFSA, Cinema Arts operated in Australia in the period 1927 - 1932. From my extensive research of all my twenty seven Cinema Arts daybill images that I have, there were at least eight different variations of copyright information presentations. These included five different printing companies. Taking into account that there were no other examples of these two daybills to copy the exact information from, how then would we know for sure that the correct details were added to the restored posters? Just asking. a question that springs to mind.
If anyone else would like to comment as well it would be appreciated.