CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON Daybill - New Zealand Style!

John

The Distributors in New Zealand loved to make changes to Australian daybills using paint to censor or add taglines, etc. This daybill for Creature from the Black Lagoon is a great example of that and they have even invented a new word - DIMENSIAL!!! Do you think the changes devalue the poster and if so, by what percentage? Would you get the text removed and have the poster linen backed or leave as is? I don't mind it as it is and I think it is quite unique. I would probably leave it as is but interested in what everyone else thinks.

Bruce

Leave it! I love the new word!

Charlie

Beauty!

Rick

The 3D writing is great, in an otherwise dark part of the poster.

John

Bruce said:

Leave it! I love the new word!

I agree and the writing is carefully done too.

HONDO

Are we now to believe that judging from the poster that there were, if only limited, some 3-D screenings in New Zealand? It certainly would point to this having been the case then.

Interestingly I cannot locate any confirmation of any 3-D screenings taking place here in Australia. I am not completely ruling this out as happening , but extensive searching in the past by me hasn't found any details to support that there were any 3-D screenings of the film in Australia.





The daybill altered for 3-D screenings in New Zealand, and the daybill with a faint  N.Z. censorship stamp applied at the top right hand side of the poster. This second poster would have been the one used for the normal 35mm screenings.  

John

Another version which would seem to confirm that it was shown in 3D.

HONDO

I find it it very interesting that the much smaller country of New Zealand, it would certainly appear, had some 3-D screenings there and yet Australia didn't. 

John

HONDO said:

I find it it very interesting that the much smaller country of New Zealand, it would certainly appear, had some 3-D screenings there and yet Australia didn't. 

Yes, it is strange indeed.

Matt

I was down at Tyabb 2 weekends ago and Greg and we were talking about this NZ version that he had up at his shop. I always thought the GY rating was a paper snipe. He said he's had 5 copies of this poster, all of which the GY rating was printed. 

John

Matt said:

I was down at Tyabb 2 weekends ago and Greg and we were talking about this NZ version that he had up at his shop. I always thought the GY rating was a paper snipe. He said he's had 5 copies of this poster, all of which the GY rating was printed. 

I have also had few of the NZ version but I have seen a mix of the painted GY censor details and the paper snipe. I guess the one with the paper snipe is more desirable because it is fairly easy to remove.

John

Here is one with just the paper snipe and no added text

HONDO

I have emailed a contact in New Zealand who hopefully will be able to throw some light on a N.Z. 3-D re;lease.

 Once I hear back I will inform you the results. 

dedeposter

Either version is on my list of wants, I'll get it one day.

collectahollic

Creature appeared to have 3 NZ screenings. The table below should list in reverse order, so I can only assume the 1964 is a typo should read 1954 and that the final 1979 release was in 3D (US 1972)? Although it's surprising that the 1st release daybills would have been hanging around that long to be modified?



As for the daybill itself, I hold a number of the faintly stamped daybills in my own collection and sold five stamped and two green sniped earlier this year. The 3D version (when painted nearly as per John/HA's image) is certainly a nice novelty piece for a completiest.

HONDO

The above information is interesting, but lacks any details regarding film gauge and any 3-D details. Also the 1979 PG rating is a little confusing.

I have currently some information on the subject including a date on 3-D involvement that I have received. I am presently in the process of querying some of the details though.

Hopefully in the next day or so I will be able to comment further.

collectahollic

HONDO said:

The above information is interesting, but lacks any details regarding film gauge and any 3-D details. Also the 1979 PG rating is a little confusing.

Likely that the later dates were 16mm classifications Lawrence.

HONDO

collectahollic said:

HONDO said:

The above information is interesting, but lacks any details regarding film gauge and any 3-D details. Also the 1979 PG rating is a little confusing.

Likely that the later dates were 16mm classifications Lawrence.

The lack of any mention at all of any N.Z, 1950's involvement is one of many things I am currently querying Wil.

collectahollic

HONDO said:

collectahollic said:

HONDO said:

The above information is interesting, but lacks any details regarding film gauge and any 3-D details. Also the 1979 PG rating is a little confusing.

Likely that the later dates were 16mm classifications Lawrence.

The lack of any mention at all of any N.Z, 1950's involvement is one of many things I am currently querying Wil.

From past browsing experience, the NZ classification register is often found to be incomplete, with many titles and dates missing. Human error, or lack of resources likely the cause.

HONDO

Some more detailed information on this subject to come soon.

HONDO

I am currently still checking  out some confusing information that I have recently received.

HONDO

A teaser. No N.Z. government records of Creature From The Black Lagoon every being released in New Zealand on 35mm.

dedeposter

This is all I've found for the 3D version in Australia...didn't look too hard though.

HONDO

1979 classification occurred in both Australia and New Zealand on 16mm only. No actual screening dates though. More soon.

dedeposter

I saw Creature in 3D at the Valhalla in Melbourne, it would have been around that time.

HONDO

Would the Melbourne Valhalla have been equipped with 16mm projection then?

dedeposter

Yes, a lot of what they screened was 16mm. They were very versatile. I'm happy to stand corrected if that wasn't the case but that was my understanding, but, I always assumed the 3D films they screened were 35mm. 

HONDO

Creature From The Black Lagoon was re-released in a anaglyph 3D Version ( red /blue glasses) in the U.S.A, in 1975 for 16mm rental usage. No mention of any 35mm 3-D screenings taking place.

Any idea approximately the time period the film was screened  at the Melbourne Valhalla Peter?

HONDO

Creature From The Black Lagoon was first released in 3-D in Australia late 1979 in limited selected non mainstream cinemas in Sydney and Melbourne, These cinemas would have had to have used 16mm screening projectors.   

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It Came From Outer Space (1953) was first released in 3-D in Australia in 1980. Again the 3-D screenings are known to have been screened only in  limited non mainstream cinemas in Sydney and Melbourne.

No record of the film being classified by the Australian censor in 3-D, and what the gauge it was on, although It was most likely had to on 16mm.

Limited 3-D Screenings on 16mm continued in Sydney and Melbourne during the 1980's, and into the 1990's.

I have a lot more to contribute in the future to confirm the above, plus more information as well, including images on both films.

John

So, from what you are saying it would seem that Creature from the Black Lagoon had a 3D release in NZ in the late 70s. It does look like the original daybills were altered to reflect the 3D screening but it is strange that so many daybills from the original release would have survived so that they could be used for the much later release.

HONDO

Yes it does seem unusual but nevertheless It certainly appears to have been the case.