A rarity in more ways than one. A reasonably presented poster with a mistake on it. The Gevacolor had long faded to black and white. No record of it ever being re-released in cinemas in Australia. Is it possibly a poster printed for a possible 16mm release ? Lots of questions unanswered about the poster so does this make it more desirable along with its rarity. Who knows? One was purchased by a member for around $115, some years ago. Hope this helps ?
Thanks Hondo, that helped a lot. If it helps the mystery of the exact date it was released the daybill came from a small outback towns drive-in cinema.
Thanks Hondo, that helped a lot. If it helps the mystery of the exact date it was released the daybill came from a small outback towns drive-in cinema.
Thanks for that Randolph. Good to know it was released and this type of venue would be the only type of theatre bookings the film most likely received. Love to know when though.
Without ever thinking much about it I had always thought Jedda most likely had a name change from Jedda to Jedda The Uncivilized for the release in the U.S.A., but I have recently discovered this not to be so. The British film distributor insisted that the name Jedda be changed for British consumption. Charles Chauvel believed one word titles carried more weight with film audiences and tried hard to convince the distributor that Jedda was the best title. After a wordy battle he finally compromised on their last suggestion of Jedda The Uncivilised. Printed around the time preceeding the planned U.K. release I found the following information - '' It now seems the film distributor has some highly colorful publicity material planned to emphasise the word Uncivilised.'' Looking at the U.K. quad of Jedda that Ves downloaded earlier, the poster is neither colourful or has the words The Uncivilized appearing on the poster. My thoughts only, but I am thinking the quad was printed before the name change was agreed upon, making this perhaps a rarer limited edition poster, printed and issued before the Jedda The Uncivilised titled versions were printed and distributed. The U.K. Front of house lobby card sets that I have sighted have the full title Jedda The Uncivilised printed on them. Just in case there may have been a query raised, I will jump in here and point out both the quad and the front of house cards are from the same first release of the film. It is evident then that for the U.S. release that followed in 1957 the Jedda The Uncivilized title was also decided upon for the release there as well, which I am sure would would never have been in doubt as American distributors always seem to prefer a more dramatic title.
Could also be the case of different distributors for the same film. For example, Sons of Matthew was shown as "Sons of Matthew" and "Rugged Oriordan's" by different distributors in the UK.
A second printing duotone daybill of Jedda that has to have been printed in the later part of the 1950s due to the Columbia Pictures and F. Cunninghame credits.
I think the one on the right is just badly faded. Red gets hit pretty hard in ligh
I had wondered if that was the case. Seeing the Gevacolor used in the film faded why not then the poster? The sellar on eBay is still asking big money for the poster anyway.
The poster on the right is misrepresented on eBay - clearly not an original daybill but some sort of framed repro measuring approx 6" x 14"
Thanks John for pointing this out. I just read the original daybill quote at the top of the sellers page and didn't scrole down to the measurements listed further down the page. And the seller is asking $ 475 Australian for this poster.
The poster on the right is misrepresented on eBay - clearly not an original daybill but some sort of framed repro measuring approx 6" x 14"
Thanks John for pointing this out. I just read the original daybill quote at the top of the sellers page and didn't scrole down to the measurements listed further down the page. And the seller is asking $ 475 Australian for this poster.
Yes, it has been on eBay for a long time and is pretty much worthless.
The poster on the right is misrepresented on eBay - clearly not an original daybill but some sort of framed repro measuring approx 6" x 14"
Thanks John for pointing this out. I just read the original daybill quote at the top of the sellers page and didn't scrole down to the measurements listed further down the page. And the seller is asking $ 475 Australian for this poster.
Yes, it has been on eBay for a long time and is pretty much worthless.
Trimmed borders and heavy color fading bug the hell out of me. I can deal with pinholes and rips, but for some reason can't stand those first condition issues
Without ever thinking much about it I had always thought Jedda most likely had a name change from Jedda to Jedda The Uncivilized for the release in the U.S.A., but I have recently discovered this not to be so. The British film distributor insisted that the name Jedda be changed for British consumption. Charles Chauvel believed one word titles carried more weight with film audiences and tried hard to convince the distributor that Jedda was the best title. After a wordy battle he finally compromised on their last suggestion of Jedda The Uncivilised. Printed around the time preceeding the planned U.K. release I found the following information - '' It now seems the film distributor has some highly colorful publicity material planned to emphasise the word Uncivilised.'' Looking at the U.K. quad of Jedda that Ves downloaded earlier, the poster is neither colourful or has the words The Uncivilized appearing on the poster. My thoughts only, but I am thinking the quad was printed before the name change was agreed upon, making this perhaps a rarer limited edition poster, printed and issued before the Jedda The Uncivilised titled versions were printed and distributed. The U.K. Front of house lobby card sets that I have sighted have the full title Jedda The Uncivilised printed on them. Just in case there may have been a query raised, I will jump in here and point out both the quad and the front of house cards are from the same first release of the film. It is evident then that for the U.S. release that followed in 1957 the Jedda The Uncivilized title was also decided upon for the release there as well, which I am sure would would never have been in doubt as American distributors always seem to prefer a more dramatic title.
The following is an article that was published in
the Sunday Times Newspaper in Perth, W.A. on 13 February 1955. This supports
and expands on the above information.
The following information which is also from the previous article is interesting in the fact that Olivia de Havilland had been in line to appear in A Town Like Alice, but negotiations fell through. The film Leila that she agreed to appear in instead in never happened either.
I have just sourced some more images and information regarding Jedda which I need to check out. On top of this I have been sent a U.K. Jedda image by a fellow member, so more to come soon.
Without ever thinking much about it I had always thought Jedda most likely had a name change from Jedda to Jedda The Uncivilized for the release in the U.S.A., but I have recently discovered this not to be so. The British film distributor insisted that the name Jedda be changed for British consumption. Charles Chauvel believed one word titles carried more weight with film audiences and tried hard to convince the distributor that Jedda was the best title. After a wordy battle he finally compromised on their last suggestion of Jedda The Uncivilised. Printed around the time preceeding the planned U.K. release I found the following information - '' It now seems the film distributor has some highly colorful publicity material planned to emphasise the word Uncivilised.'' Looking at the U.K. quad of Jedda that Ves downloaded earlier, the poster is neither colourful or has the words The Uncivilized appearing on the poster. My thoughts only, but I am thinking the quad was printed before the name change was agreed upon, making this perhaps a rarer limited edition poster, printed and issued before the Jedda The Uncivilised titled versions were printed and distributed. The U.K. Front of house lobby card sets that I have sighted have the full title Jedda The Uncivilised printed on them. Just in case there may have been a query raised, I will jump in here and point out both the quad and the front of house cards are from the same first release of the film. It is evident then that for the U.S. release that followed in 1957 the Jedda The Uncivilized title was also decided upon for the release there as well, which I am sure would would never have been in doubt as American distributors always seem to prefer a more dramatic title.
The following is an article that was published in
the Sunday Times Newspaper in Perth, W.A. on 13 February 1955. This supports
and expands on the above information.
The following first displayed image was forwarded to me by Wil in New Zealand, with the second one sourced from Google.
The two above advertisements advertise the first release screenings in London of Jedda, which commenced on 5 August, 1956.
( Ves )
A U.K. quad.
All the above advertising material has printed on them the title as being Jedda.. Many reputable sources state that the film was released in the U.K. as Jedda The Uncivilised as mentioned as going to be the case in the Dick Kisch article appearing above. To support the Jedda the Uncivlised case the following U.K. front of house card follows.
( John )
It had been suggested two different film distributors may have been involved in the U.K., but both the Jedda and the Jedda The Uncivilised material were for the same distributor Independent Film Distributors / British Lion. From the above material it certainly appears both titles were used in the promotion of the film in the U.K.
More information and a couple of Australian images on Jedda to follow soon.
The exact same image appearing on two English front of house lobby cards 8'' x 10'' from the same distributor with the two different film titles appearing on them. More proof that the film was advertised in the U.K. using the two titles.
More information and a couple of new to this thread Australian images on Jedda to follow soon.
The exact same image appearing on two English front of house lobby cards 8'' x 10'' from the same distributor with the two different film titles appearing on them. More proof that the film was advertised in the U.K. using the two titles.
More information and a couple of new to this thread Australian images on Jedda to follow soon.
Fantastic research Lawrence ... and just to be pedantic about the title, US posters used the title "Jedda the Uncivilized" with a "Z" instead of an "S". Obviously, they changed the spelling of the word to the American version of the English language.
A few facts about the running time of the film when originally shown in cinemas.
Jedda was originally released in Australia in 1955, when the film had a running time of 101 minutes.
Jedda / Jedda The Uncivilised U. K. version release in 1956 was drastically edited down to 73 minutes after being reduced in length by approximately 28 minutes, The film ended up being of supporting film length only.'
Jedda The Uncivilized U.S.A. 1957, and most likely released in Canada as well with the same title, The U.S.version also is credited by most sources as being 73 minutes in duration. This has me thinking that the U.S. apparently used the edited U.K. edited version as well, It has to be mentioned though that one separate Google source lists the U.S. running time as having a reduced running length of 88 minutes.
After previously having some telephone conversations many years ago with Charles Chauvell's grandson Ric Chauvel Carlsson, I have again spoken to him on the phone two times over the last four days. Ric kindly allowed me some considerable time out of his busy life to answer many questions that I had put to him. As well as answering my questions he also informed me of some other interesting information as well regarding his grandfather's films.
O.K. where to start regarding Jedda..
The Jedda U.K. quad previously posted on this thread is one that Ric believes may have been used in Malta. Ric informed me that he has another U.K. quad similar design to this to this one, but with some more colour and is titled Jedda the Uncivilised.
OK, The Quad posted above, is from use on Mainland UK. It's silkscreen, which was used for very limited showings, so this won't have been a large release, more likely the independant Chains. I have a friend who has a large collection of Kine Mags, which are a must for dating this stuff, will check with him.
OK, So far. It went out in July 56 for a trade screening, Went on general release on 13th Aug 56 with Eyewitness, but was cut down to 61 mins. There was a TV 15MIN short shown in 55 only on TV, under the title Jedda the Uncivilised. So it's possible the short may have went out, under that title and still got the A Cert. But this is only speculation, as it seems it was just interviews.. The film did seem to sit around for a while, so the Uncivilised cards may have been made up, but a title change scrapped them..?? A Quad may have went the same way. But I can't say I've seen a Quad with the Uncivilised title.. Any pics of it Lawerence.?
OK, So far. It went out in July 56 for a trade screening, Went on general release on 13th Aug 56 with Eyewitness, but was cut down to 61 mins. There was a TV 15MIN short shown in 55 only on TV, under the title Jedda the Uncivilised. So it's possible the short may have went out, under that title and still got the A Cert. But this is only speculation, as it seems it was just interviews.. The film did seem to sit around for a while, so the Uncivilised cards may have been made up, but a title change scrapped them..?? A Quad may have went the same way. But I can't say I've seen a Quad with the Uncivilised title.. Any pics of it Lawerence.?
Thanks for the information Paul. Unfortunately I am unable to obtain an image off Ric Chauvel Carlsson. He intends to display this image for the first time as part of a future project that he is working on. Please inform us if any more information is obtained by you.
Thanks for all the info. I love the look of the quad
I am pleased you are enjoying this thread Ric.
Jedda daybill courtesy of Ves ( left ), then an image courtesy of Ric Chauvel Carlsson / NFSA ) and finally the approximately 6'' x 14''-eBay advertised poster.
You are able to see on the above posted second and third posters the tape mark that appears on the top of these posters. This appears just above the letters D and E in the word DEATH, thus indicating that the above Ric Chauvel Carlsson image was the original source material that was used to produce the 6'' x 14''poster version.
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Thanks for that Randolph. Good to know it was released and this type of venue would be the only type of theatre bookings the film most likely received. Love to know when though.
Without ever thinking much about it I had always thought Jedda most likely had a name change from Jedda to Jedda The Uncivilized for the release in the U.S.A., but I have recently discovered this not to be so. The British film distributor insisted that the name Jedda be changed for British consumption. Charles Chauvel believed one word titles carried more weight with film audiences and tried hard to convince the distributor that Jedda was the best title. After a wordy battle he finally compromised on their last suggestion of Jedda The Uncivilised. Printed around the time preceeding the planned U.K. release I found the following information - '' It now seems the film distributor has some highly colorful publicity material planned to emphasise the word Uncivilised.'' Looking at the U.K. quad of Jedda that Ves downloaded earlier, the poster is neither colourful or has the words The Uncivilized appearing on the poster. My thoughts only, but I am thinking the quad was printed before the name change was agreed upon, making this perhaps a rarer limited edition poster, printed and issued before the Jedda The Uncivilised titled versions were printed and distributed. The U.K. Front of house lobby card sets that I have sighted have the full title Jedda The Uncivilised printed on them. Just in case there may have been a query raised, I will jump in here and point out both the quad and the front of house cards are from the same first release of the film. It is evident then that for the U.S. release that followed in 1957 the Jedda The Uncivilized title was also decided upon for the release there as well, which I am sure would would never have been in doubt as American distributors always seem to prefer a more dramatic title.
A second printing duotone daybill of Jedda that has to have been printed in the later part of the 1950s due to the Columbia Pictures and F. Cunninghame credits.
Peter
The original daybill image, and the exact same design image with different usage of colour.
I had wondered if that was the case. Seeing the Gevacolor used in the film faded why not then the poster? The sellar on eBay is still asking big money for the poster anyway.
The following is an article that was published in the Sunday Times Newspaper in Perth, W.A. on 13 February 1955. This supports and expands on the above information.The following information which is also from the previous article is interesting in the fact that Olivia de Havilland had been in line to appear in A Town Like Alice, but negotiations fell through. The film Leila that she agreed to appear in instead in never happened either.
I have just sourced some more images and information regarding Jedda which I need to check out. On top of this I have been sent a U.K. Jedda image by a fellow member, so more to come soon.
The two above advertisements advertise the first release screenings in London of Jedda, which commenced on 5 August, 1956.
A U.K. quad.
All the above advertising material has printed on them the title as being Jedda.. Many reputable sources state that the film was released in the U.K. as Jedda The Uncivilised as mentioned as going to be the case in the Dick Kisch article appearing above. To support the Jedda the Uncivlised case the following U.K. front of house card follows.
It had been suggested two different film distributors may have been involved in the U.K., but both the Jedda and the Jedda The Uncivilised material were for the same distributor Independent Film Distributors / British Lion. From the above material it certainly appears both titles were used in the promotion of the film in the U.K.
More information and a couple of Australian images on Jedda to follow soon.
The exact same image appearing on two English front of house lobby cards 8'' x 10'' from the same distributor with the two different film titles appearing on them. More proof that the film was advertised in the U.K. using the two titles.
More information and a couple of new to this thread Australian images on Jedda to follow soon.
... and just to be pedantic about the title, US posters used the title "Jedda the Uncivilized" with a "Z" instead of an "S". Obviously, they changed the spelling of the word to the American version of the English language.
A few facts about the running time of the film when originally shown in cinemas.
Jedda was originally released in Australia in 1955, when the film had a running time of 101 minutes.
Jedda / Jedda The Uncivilised U. K. version release in 1956 was drastically edited down to 73 minutes after being reduced in length by approximately 28 minutes, The film ended up being of supporting film length only.'
Jedda The Uncivilized U.S.A. 1957, and most likely released in Canada as well with the same title, The U.S.version also is credited by most sources as being 73 minutes in duration. This has me thinking that the U.S. apparently used the edited U.K. edited version as well, It has to be mentioned though that one separate Google source lists the U.S. running time as having a reduced running length of 88 minutes.
The best images I can come up with of the U.K. distributor's credits.
The distributors details on both posters is -
Distribution Controlled by INDEPENDENT FILM DISTRIBUTORS in Association with BRITISH LION FILMS.
The U.K censorship details are the same with Cert ''A'' printed on both cards. The remaining information being various film credits.
After previously having some telephone conversations many years ago with Charles Chauvell's grandson Ric Chauvel Carlsson, I have again spoken to him on the phone two times over the last four days. Ric kindly allowed me some considerable time out of his busy life to answer many questions that I had put to him. As well as answering my questions he also informed me of some other interesting information as well regarding his grandfather's films.
O.K. where to start regarding Jedda..
The Jedda U.K. quad previously posted on this thread is one that Ric believes may have been used in Malta. Ric informed me that he has another U.K. quad similar design to this to this one, but with some more colour and is titled Jedda the Uncivilised.
Jedda glass slide. Image courtesy of Ric Chauvel Carlsson / NFSA ).
Jedda & Sons Of Matthew cut and paste poster organised from other materials, and used to publicise an unknown dated charity screening.
I asked Ric about this daybill poster previously posted here, but he couldn't help me at all regarding its origins.
I will shortly add some other Chales Chauvel film titles information onto the Rare Australian Posters Of Australian Films thread as well.
Rick said: I am pleased you are enjoying this thread Ric.
Jedda daybill courtesy of Ves ( left ), then an image courtesy of Ric Chauvel Carlsson / NFSA ) and finally the approximately 6'' x 14''-eBay advertised poster.
You are able to see on the above posted second and third posters the tape mark that appears on the top of these posters. This appears just above the letters D and E in the word DEATH, thus indicating that the above Ric Chauvel Carlsson image was the original source material that was used to produce the 6'' x 14''poster version.
Here is a version I have in my collection