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  • HONDO said:
    It is so disappointing that no one has bothered to post a comment. There are so many Clint Eastwood fans out there as well. 

    Dear HONDO : I read all posts here, I appretiate your effort and all other commenters and I'm pretty sure other people also like it, but, sadly, at least in my case, I don't have too much to say, my knowledge is very limited and my poster collection is really small; I suppose the same happen with other readers. But I really enjoy all comments here and also I'm learning a lot... And I laugh with those bad copies, Hehehe !  :D I didn't know they even exist ! But it's true I don't hit the "like" button, I can fix that ! :)  I hope you have a very good day. Cheers !

  • I marked the post with a LOL if that helps. I also ready all your posts and found that very funny, just didn't have anything constructive to say at the time. You said it all!


    Peter
  • Thanks  Diego and Dave for taking the time to respond, and to offer kind words, Nice to know that my postings are appreciated and enjoyed. 


  • The African Queen  ( 1951 ) U.S.A. 1/2 sheet. A great action filled poster that does exaggerate the contents of the film somewhat. It does however highlight the two stars of the film Bogart and Hepburn.

     

    The African Queen ( 1951 ) U.S.A. title lobby card. This card has taken a minor scene from the film, that also appears on the 1/2 sheet,to promote the title lobby card. The scene looks good with Katherine Hepburn  and Robert Morley characters featured on the poster. One would have to think though  that for the main title lobby card Humphrey Bogart's appearance would have been a priority. On the following press sheet a slide is the only other advertised accessory that is also minus the Bogart and Hepburn images.


  • That lobby card is hilarious, it looks like Moses is about to part the Red Sea.


    Peter
  • dedeposter said:
    That lobby card is hilarious, it looks like Moses is about to part the Red Sea.

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    Two original Can-Can ( 1960 ) Australian daybill posters. I recently spotted another daybill poster version printed in the style of the Frank Sinatra version. This time it featured Juliet Prowse. I didn't keep an image at the time, and now cannot locate it on Google. I am wondering if anyone has the Juliet Prowse daybill image that they would like to share here?

     Were there perhaps some other versions produced as well, particularly one featuring Shirley MacLaine?
  •  ( Josef Lebovic Gallery )   

    Animals As Men ( release date unknown ) Australian daybill.

    Once in a blue moon a film poster is sited, but for whatever reason the identity of the film isn't able to be found, even after some exhausting searching has taken place. The above Animals As Men film is a complete mystery to me, No record of a film being released in Australia, the U.S.A. or anywhere else in the world using this title has been located. 

    The Rotary Press printer's credit seems to narrow it down considerably to the late 1920s. Rotary Press appear to have printed film posters at least between 1927 and 1929. The film distributor listed on the daybill as being Quality Films is unable to be identified as operating in Australia in the 1920's or 1930's either. This poster is a real mystery.
  • HONDO said:
     ( Josef Lebovic Gallery )   

    Animals As Men ( release date unknown ) Australian daybill.

    Once in a blue moon a film poster is sited, but for whatever reason the identity of the film isn't able to be found, even after some exhausting searching has taken place. The above Animals As Men film is a complete mystery to me, No record of a film being released in Australia, the U.S.A. or anywhere else in the world using this title has been located. 

    The Rotary Press printer's credit seems to narrow it down considerably to the late 1920s. Rotary Press appear to have printed film posters at least between 1927 and 1929. The film distributor listed on the daybill as being Quality Films is unable to be identified as operating in Australia in the 1920's or 1930's either. This poster is a real mystery.
    Hi, Hondo ! I hope you are doing well. Curious movie indeed. I have no idea, but looking for it I saw something and I just asked for info, by email. I suppose I'll get an answer soon, but maybe is nothing, We'll see. Cheers !


  • Thanks Diego for the interest.We will see what results you get back, and I appreciate you making an inquiry. All the best.  
  • edited December 2022
    Hi ! I got the answer this morning from the manager of Mayfair Theatre, in NZ : "Hi, I have no idea about this. You can check our website for the movies we are showing." So, dead end, sorry. Was a comment in their facebook page, maybe years ago, no idea. At least we tried :smile:  Cheers !

  • Thanks Diego for attempting to assist.
  • edited December 2022
    Anyone ever wonder when the Simmons printed Australian full bleed RKO Radio daybills ceased to be printed 100% of the time in this format? 
  • I'd imagine these things happen with a change of management, designers or staff?


    Peter
  • I'd imagine these things happen with a change of management, designers or staff?
    Sensible thinking, and this may be the answer for the reason for the changes.

    My information when finalised  will cover the period of time when the full bleed posters had ceased to be used in this format.

    Later with a last minute reversal  of thinking Simmons / RKO reversed back to a very  limited usage of full bleed daybill poster application. This happened just before RKO closed up the Australian operations..  More details to follow.
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    1930's, 1940's and 1950's RKO Radio full bleed Australian daybill examples..                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        In at least from 1932 when I have my earliest image, Simmons started printing all of the RKO Radio Australia daybills full bleed.  With only two known exceptions Simmons printed all the RKO product exclusively from 1932, and most likely earlier, up to  circa 1955 when some product was allocated to other printers as well. Prior to circa 1955 I am only aware of two late 1940's RKO daybills printed by someone other than Simmons. The two posters were Banjo and Make Mine Laughs that were two very minor films. These posters were printed with borders by F. Cunninghame. 

    A mention  that a  daybill exists for a silent film film titled Tyrant Of Red Gulch that was released in Australia by RKO. This film was released in the U.S.A. on 25 November 1928.  This film was a Film Booking Offices Of America ( FBO ) release there. FBO  was a U.S.A. film distributor of silent films during the period 1918 - 1929 when it merged with RKO, This film appears to have only received a small number of bookings in Australia in 1930. Very little demand for a 50 minute 'B' grade silent film in 1930. The poster was printed with borders by The Swift Printing Co. Ltd. Sydney.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Around circa 1954 RKO Australia started using other printers on some daybills apart from their main printer Simmons. who continued to produce the bulk of the work. The other printers  included Victory Publicity The  Southern Studios / F. Cunninghame, Robert Burton and others, including many daybills produced. without a printer's credit. These alternative printer's to Simmons printed all their daybill product with borders.

    !n 1955 Simmons with RKO daybills, although printing some posters full bleed, also started printing some of their product with borders. In 1956, 1957 and into 1958 the daybills Simmons produced were with borders. A comment to make here is that  when Simmons, decided to produce borders on their daybills, that this also saw less attractive looking product on a whole being produced, e,g, Jet Pilot and The Silken Affair.

    It appears that later in 1958 prior to RKO closing up operations in Australia a late minute decision was made to revert  back to producing better quality artwork, more colourfull posters and in producing full bleed posters by Simmons once more if only for a brief period of time..

    The known examples are as follows. There may be at least one other poster as well that I cannot locate an image of. I am thinking Escapade In Japan possibly. Anyone have an image of this poster by any chance?

         
     



    In the 1950's this presentation format for RKO was discontinued.

  • Anyone? After all the time, effort and research that has gone into this thread entry, and after not receiving back any comments at all, however brief in response to this RKO posting. it is for me extremely disappointing.

     I am contemplating if there will be enough encouragement and interest in the future for me to continue pursuing and presenting long detailed entries. Perhaps I should just  stick to brief entries that don't require too much time and effort.
     
    This thread will be placed on hold  for the time being and given a rest.  The pending Mad Max orange Australian one sheet  and Alfred Hitchcock's film Number 17 ( 1932 ) Australian release entries  that I  had planned to include here shortIy, will now be included at a much later time.                                                                                                                                                                                     

                        
                                                                               
      

  • i simply have no idea about the full bleeds - but certainly keen to learn about things, especially orange Mad Max


  • Here is the Escapade in Japan DB
  • The only thing I know about the full bleed posters is that I like them. They always look classier than a white border.


    Peter


  • Here is the Escapade in Japan DB

    Thanks for sending the image. It confirms my thinking that it would be a nice colourful full bleed poster. A delightful family film 
  • Oh Orange Mad Max, can't wait to read this!
  • HONDO said:
     

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Around circa 1954 RKO Australia started using other printers on some daybills apart from their main printer Simmons. who continued to produce the bulk of the work. The other printers  included Victory Publicity The  Southern Studios / F. Cunninghame, Robert Burton and others, including many daybills produced. without a printer's credit. These alternative printer's to Simmons printed all their daybill product with borders.

    !n 1955 Simmons with RKO daybills, although printing some posters full bleed, also started printing some of their product with borders. In 1956, 1957 and into 1958 the daybills Simmons produced were with borders. A comment to make here is that  when Simmons, decided to produce borders on their daybills, that this also saw less attractive looking product on a whole being produced, e,g, Jet Pilot and The Silken Affair.

        
     
    So 20,000 leagues would be a good example of the switch over...with border, but I think its a pretty good example!
  • For anyone interested Eisenhower ( Mark ) started a thread in February 2018 titled RKO Daybills-Full Bleed  where this subject was briefly discussed 
  • HONDO said:
     

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Around circa 1954 RKO Australia started using other printers on some daybills apart from their main printer Simmons. who continued to produce the bulk of the work. The other printers  included Victory Publicity The  Southern Studios / F. Cunninghame, Robert Burton and others, including many daybills produced. without a printer's credit. These alternative printer's to Simmons printed all their daybill product with borders.

    !n 1955 Simmons with RKO daybills, although printing some posters full bleed, also started printing some of their product with borders. In 1956, 1957 and into 1958 the daybills Simmons produced were with borders. A comment to make here is that  when Simmons, decided to produce borders on their daybills, that this also saw less attractive looking product on a whole being produced, e,g, Jet Pilot and The Silken Affair.

        
     
    So 20,000 leagues would be a good example of the switch over...with border, but I think its a pretty good example!
     

    20,000 leagues Under The Sea was released in Sydney 15 December 1955. There is no printer's credit appearing on the poster.

    Passion was released in Sydney October 27, 1955. One of the last, if not the last, full bleed Simmons RKO poster printed before the five earlier mentioned Simmons full bleed titles above were later printed in 1958. Four of these films were released in Sydney in 1958, and in case of Escapade In Japan in early 1959. The Australian distribution of the five films were by RKO and also MGM, who had taken over the Australian distribution rights to RKO product in late 1958.

    There were three RKO films released in Australia in December 1958 The tiles were Rodan!, I Married a Woman! and a re-release of Pinocchio. All three titles were printed with borders. I Married A Woman! was printed by Simmons, but with Rodan! and Pinocchio, printers were not credited.
     
    In  early 1959 there were two films released with  daybill posters bearing the RKO logo. Stage Struck was one of them, and  doesn't show a printer's credit. This film would have been released by MGM.  The other film being The Mysterians that shows RKO as being the distributor on the poster, with no mention oF MGM, who was  actually the Australian distributor. The Australian RKO daybill follows below, along with the U.S.A. insert poster showing MGM as the distributor.

     

    The remaining small number of five RKO  previously unreleased titles that MGM then later distributed between 1959 and 1965  are The Naked And The Dead, Enchanted Island, From The Earth To The Moon, Verboten and Guns Don't Argue. Two of the five films, From The Earth To The Moon and Enchanted Island had delayed releases, and were only released in Australia during 1964 and 1965 after having some legal problems resolved, All these five posters show MGM as being the Australian distributor, with no mention of RKO, and of course all were printed with borders. 
  • So 20,000 leagues, feels like a Simmons.  Are we thinking it's another printer?
  • So 20,000 leagues, feels like a Simmons.  Are we thinking it's another printer?
    Any particular reason you believe it is Simmons printed?
  • Just the feel and look of the artwork, it has that kinda look to it.  But I dont know either way for certain.
  • Border or no, I'd love that Mysterians
  • HONDO said:
    So 20,000 leagues, feels like a Simmons.  Are we thinking it's another printer?
    Any particular reason you believe it is Simmons printed?
    Just the feel and look of the artwork, it has that kinda look to it.  But I dont know either way for certain.
    The lack of a Simmons credit is a worry for me. There were a lot of other with borders printed  RKO daybills produced around the same time, so it rules out Simmons printing 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea for me. I cannot see Simmons leaving off their printer's credit as they appear to have  never previously excluded their  name credit off any previously printed RKO daybills.

    I am thinking that  the following presentation that appeared on Simmons printed  RKO full billed daybills  previously would have you leaning towards Simmons printing the 20,000 League Under The Sea daybill.
     

    To perhaps rule this out, the above RKO presentation was also printed on the following Tarzan's Hidden Jungle daybill. This poster was printed. with borders by Victory Publicity prior to when the 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea film was released in late 1955.  

     

    Had I not known that this Tarzan Hidden's Jungle daybill was printed by Victory Publicity I would have thought Simmons for sure. 
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