Additional RKO Australian one sheets images found.
Step By Step ( 1946 ). ( Image above ) **** stars. ( from Ves ) Dick Tracy Vs. Cueball ( 1946 ). **** stars. ( image on Dick Tracy Vs. Cueball thread ). Public Pigeon No.1 ( 1957 ). No stars.
Australian RKO one sheet **** star and non 4 star updated totals.
If you haven't caught it on ebay, Phil @ Cinemarts is selling a gorgeous 30x40 Fantasia. I've never seen one, so sharing it here as a thing of beauty as well as being a 4 star poster:
Fantastic looking Fantasia poster, and what makes it more amazing is that it was produced by my least favoutite major film poster printer F. Cunninghame. The only other F. Cunninghame one sheet poster printed by them for RKO Radio prior to 1941, that I have been able to locate is for another Walt Disney title Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs in 1938, which is also a nice looking poster.
Victory Publicity appears to have been the preferred one sheet printer throughout most of RKO's period releasing films in Australia. F.Cunninghame designed and printed some film titlles in the mid to late 1940s and during the 1950s. Some of the F.Cunninghame one sheets were o.k. but in my opinion the majority of their RKO one sheet efforts weren't as good as the majority of the ones Victory Publicity produced over three decades.Some posters were to me too harsh in appearance.
Finally the Australian RKO Radio 4 star daybill usage history as I know it.
To the best of my knowledge the following details cover the times the 4 star logo was printed on Australian daybills.
Up to 1936 numerous variations of RKO logos appeared on their daybill posters.
In December 1936 it appears the boxed 4 star logo appeared in a Everyones advertisement, perhaps for the first time. This style of logo then appeared on RKO daybills as follows.
1937 for that year's Australian releases. 1938 for that year's Australian releases. 1939 for almost all that year's Australian releases, with a few exceptions appearing at the end of the year being unboxed and without stars. 1940 being both 4 star and non 4 star style being used. 1941 being both 4 star and non 4 star style used again this year. 1942 being almost all non 4 star style, but at least one 4 star title Suspicion appeared in 1942. Perhaps printed in 1941 and a release in Australia was delayed. 1943 / 1958 all without the 4 stars appearing as this style, as it had been discontinued in Daybill usage. Important to note though that the 4 star logo continued appearing on Australian RKO one and three sheets until the end on the 1940's.
I need to mention that during the 1943 / 1958 period on the non 4 star logo daybill usage, that I found one RKO daybill titled Banjo ( 1947 ) printed by F. Cunninghame with the 4 star logo minus being encased in a box though and the only one I have sighted printed as such a way ), printed on it. Almost all RKO daybolls produced in the 1940's were printed by Simmons, with few exceptions. I would suggest that the Banjo daybill printed by F.Cunninghame, who was RKO's main one sheet and three sheets printer at this time and were printing the 4 star logo on all these posters, made an error with the daybill presentation, in this instance due to hardly ever being given RKO daybills in the 1940's to produce.
In the late 1930's in Australia RKO started printing their one sheets with the 4 stars logo and this continued until around 1948. The 4 stars appeared to have been discontinued in around 1949 as no examples of one sheets after then have been sighted with the stars.The only exception to an Australian one sheet being printed during the period starting in the late 1930's through to 1948 without the four stars is the 1939 film Gunga Din printed by Marchant . Draw your own conclusions why the stars were not printed on the poster. The only thing I can think of is Marchant wasn't their usual printer and maybe this is why perhaps the four stars was overlooked.There is also something else that worries me .There is an Australian one sheet of the 1936 film A Woman Rebels which stars Katharine Hepburn with the 4 stars on it. I believe this poster is a re-release 1940's poster as the printer is Victory Publicity who were a 1940's to early 1950's printer.
Now saying all this the four stars printed on daybills is different.The printing in this format had a checkered history and different to the Australian one sheet. The 4 stars seem to have started appearing on daybills around 1937 and finished around 1941. .The only example after this if the 1947 film Banjo printed by F.Cunninghame.The daybills were being printed around this period by Simmons and all without the stars.As F. Cunninghame were printing the RKO one sheets ( rather badly ) around this time with the 4 stars on them that when they were given this daybill of Banjo to print, they without thinking, added the 4 stars logo they were currently using on the one sheets. There was a period from around 1939 to 1941 when RKO daybills were being printed with the 4 Stars and also without the 4 stars by Simmons. One wonders Why?
Hondo
The vast majority of RKO daybills printed during the 1940's were printed by Simmons. Although F. Cunninghame printed a large amount of RKO one sheets in the 1940's with the four stars appearing on them all up to 1948, they rarely were asked by RKO Australia to print daybills. The very small amount that they did design and print were either "B'' grade titles or duotone second printings, probably to lighten Simmons workload at certain times. They were printed with borders and without the four stars appearing. I suggest that due to constantly using the four star logo on the one sheet posters that The Enchanted Cottage daybill along with Banjo daybill were simply oversights by F. Cunninghame. As one knows printers were renowned for making many errors on their posters. To prove my theory about the four star usage incorrect one will have to produce a Simmons daybill designed and printed between the four star period in question that is without four stars printed on the poster otherwise I firmly believe that the four star usage on daybills was intended to be used exclusively on full bleed RKO daybill titles only. That got me enthused again so thank you John.
Both in late 1940 and into 1941 both 4 star and non 4 star logos were printed on Simmons daybills. By the commencement of 1942 all Simmons RKO logos on daybills appear to be then without the 4 stars.
Just a summing up and update now of the Australian RKO 4 star logo time span of when it was used and printed on Australian full bleed Simmons RKO daybills.
1937 - Started being printed on daybills.
1938 - Printed on daybills.
1939 - Mainly used throughout the year, with some exceptions at the very end of this year when the 4 stars in some cases were left off the logo.
1940 - Combination of 4 star and without 4 star logos printed.
1941 - Again a combination of 4 stars and without 4 stars. Suspicion was previously thought to have been released in Australia in early 1942, but is now confirmed that the film received a December 29, 1941 release in Sydney.
1942 and onwards - No longer officially used on daybills.
Two daybill exceptions where 4 stars were still applied post 1941 are Banjo ( 1947 ) released in Australia in 1947 and a follow up duotone printing of The Enchanted Collage ( 1945 ) with the printing date unknown. Both these titles were printed by F. Cunninghame who I believe for reasons previously mentioned simply just used the old discontinued 4 star logo The confusion possibly being that the 4 star logo around this time and up to early 1949 was being applied to Australian RKO one sheets by F. Cunninghame,
A third example of interest is an RKO duotone 13" x 30'' daybill of Five Came Back ( 1939 ). This poster would have to be a follow up poster and it is printed by Marchant & Co. The original would have been a Simmons full bleed colour long daybill used for the 1939 Australian firsr release. Due to its size this duotone poster has to be from 1941 or later.
The Mother Goose Goes Hollywood ( 1938 ) daybill image posted by Chris was printed for the Australian 1939 release.
As previously stated - '' 1942 and onwards - No longer officially used on daybills." An amendment requires to be made here. I have just realised that the original Dumbo ( 1941 ) daybill has 4 stars printed on it. Dumbo was first released in Sydney Australia on May 8 1942. I would like to point out that Dumbo is incorrecrly credited on IMDB website as being released in Australia on August 28 1942. I am wondering if the Dumbo daybill had been printed at the end of 1941, and the Australian release date was perhaps delayed.
December 16, 1936 Everyones RKO Radio Pictures trade advertisement. Possibly displaying the first usage of the four star logo in Australia, or if not certainly one of the earliest examples.
This RKO Printing and hired accessories invoice issued in 1954 is the last usage of the 4 star RKO logo that I have ever sighted. Obviously still using up stationary that had been printed many years before.
Wonder Man ( 1945 ) original Australian release one sheet four star app;lied logo poster, and a 1955 national Australian re-release one sheet poster printed with the post 1949 style logo.
Australian RKO one sheet **** and non 4 star updated totals.
Up to 1935. 1 without stars
1936 / 1949. 39 with **** stars.
1949 / 1957. 57 without stars.
No Road Back ( 1957 ) and Rodan ( 1956 ) that was released in Australia December 1958 by MGM. The poster had been printed earlier on, and pre the MGM distribution arrangement being established in Australia.
Australian RKO one sheet****and non 4 star updated totals.
Australian RKO one sheet****and non 4 star updated totals.
Up to 1935. ! without stars.
1936 / 1949. 39 with **** stars.
1949 / 1958. 59 without stars.
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Australian RKO one sheets **** and non 4 star updated totals.
Up to 1936 ( adjusted year, previously 1935 ). 2 without stars .
1936 / 1949. 39 with **** stars.
1949 /1958. 59 without stars.
A total above of 100, which represents only a very small percentage of the total Australian RKO one sheet posters that would have been originally printed. My educated estimate of the number of films RKO Radio released in Australia during their time as distributors would be nearing a thousand feature length films. This total has included some British product that was released in Australia and not the U.S.A., by RKO.
Looking at these numbers it appears that approximately 90% of the total RKO Australian released feature film one sheets are missing. This is a disappointing number to know about. Of course there would be an unknown number of RKO Australian one sheets that we have never sighted that are most likely sitting in private collections here in Australia, and also overseas that we are unaware of. This number though in the overall scheme of things would have to be minor, and shouldn't make too much difference to the overall 90% estimated figure.
( Duke )
The Last Outlaw ( 1936 ) was released in Australia circa July 1936, and The Arizonian ( 1935 ) in Australia in 1935.
These are the only two examples of RKO Australian one sheets printed prior to the introduction of **** usage that I have been able to locate.
( Ves )
A Woman Rebels ( 1936 ) is the earliest example of RKO one sheet poster **** usage that I have located. Although the poster was printed in 1936, the film was only released in Australia in January 1937.
I have also included the **** daybill poster as well, as it is so beautiful.
Some non **** images of RKO one sheets from the 1950's that I only have only come across within the last twelve months or so that I thought I would now include them here..
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Additional RKO Australian one sheets images found.
Step By Step ( 1946 ). ( Image above ) **** stars. ( from Ves )
Dick Tracy Vs. Cueball ( 1946 ). **** stars. ( image on Dick Tracy Vs. Cueball thread ).
Public Pigeon No.1 ( 1957 ). No stars.
Australian RKO one sheet **** star and non 4 star updated totals.
Up to 1935. I without stars.
1936 / 1949. 38 with **** stars.
1949 / 1957. 53 without stars.
I've never seen one, so sharing it here as a thing of beauty as well as being a 4 star poster:
Auction here:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FANTASIA-Walt-Disney-ANIMATION-Linen-Backed-RARE-AUSTRALIAN-ONE-SHEET-1940/133305872163?hash=item1f09a62f23:g:RrUAAOSwkwxeH7OW
Fantastic looking Fantasia poster, and what makes it more amazing is that it was produced by my least favoutite major film poster printer F. Cunninghame. The only other F. Cunninghame one sheet poster printed by them for RKO Radio prior to 1941, that I have been able to locate is for another Walt Disney title Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs in 1938, which is also a nice looking poster.
Victory Publicity appears to have been the preferred one sheet printer throughout most of RKO's period releasing films in Australia. F.Cunninghame designed and printed some film titlles in the mid to late 1940s and during the 1950s. Some of the F.Cunninghame one sheets were o.k. but in my opinion the majority of their RKO one sheet efforts weren't as good as the majority of the ones Victory Publicity produced over three decades.Some posters were to me too harsh in appearance.
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Additional RKO Australian one sheets where images found to exist.
On Dangerous Ground (1951). No Stars.
The Outlaw ( 1952 RR ). No stars.
The Unholy Wife (1957). No stars.
Australian RKO one sheet **** and non 4 star updated totals.
Up to 1935. 1 without stars.
1936 / 1949. 38 with **** stars.
1949 / 1957. 56 without stars.
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Additional RKO Australian three sheet where image sighted.
The Brave One (1956). No stars.
Australian RKO Australian three sheets **** and non 4 star updated totals..
1930-1935. Nothing sighted.
1936 -1949. 2 with **** stars.
1949 -1957. 7 without stars.
Australian 3 sheets availability is super rare as one can see here.
1937 - Started being printed on daybills.
1938 - Printed on daybills.
1939 - Mainly used throughout the year, with some exceptions at the very end of this year when the 4 stars in some cases were left off the logo.
1940 - Combination of 4 star and without 4 star logos printed.
1941 - Again a combination of 4 stars and without 4 stars. Suspicion was previously thought to have been released in Australia in early 1942, but is now confirmed that the film received a December 29, 1941 release in Sydney.
1942 and onwards - No longer officially used on daybills.
Two daybill exceptions where 4 stars were still applied post 1941 are Banjo ( 1947 ) released in Australia in 1947 and a follow up duotone printing of The Enchanted Collage ( 1945 ) with the printing date unknown. Both these titles were printed by F. Cunninghame who I believe for reasons previously mentioned simply just used the old discontinued 4 star logo The confusion possibly being that the 4 star logo around this time and up to early 1949 was being applied to Australian RKO one sheets by F. Cunninghame,
A third example of interest is an RKO duotone 13" x 30'' daybill of Five Came Back ( 1939 ). This poster would have to be a follow up poster and it is printed by Marchant & Co. The original would have been a Simmons full bleed colour long daybill used for the 1939 Australian firsr release. Due to its size this duotone poster has to be from 1941 or later.
The Mother Goose Goes Hollywood ( 1938 ) daybill image posted by Chris was printed for the Australian 1939 release.
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Australian RKO one sheet **** and non 4 star updated totals.
Up to 1935. 1 withour stars.
1936 / 1949 . 39 with **** stars.
1949 / 1957. 56 without srars.
Just turned up on Bruce's eMovieposter.com auctions, an RKO Australian one sheet of Two Tickets To Broadway ( 1952 ). Now to be added to the totals.
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Australian RKO one sheet **** and non 4 star updated totals.
Up to 1935. 1 without stars
1936 / 1949. 39 with **** stars.
1949 / 1957. 57 without stars.
December 16, 1936 Everyones RKO Radio Pictures trade advertisement. Possibly displaying the first usage of the four star logo in Australia, or if not certainly one of the earliest examples.
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This RKO Printing and hired accessories invoice issued in 1954 is the last usage of the 4 star RKO logo that I have ever sighted. Obviously still using up stationary that had been printed many years before.
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Wonder Man ( 1945 ) original Australian release one sheet four star app;lied logo poster, and a 1955 national Australian re-release one sheet poster printed with the post 1949 style logo.
Dangerous Mission! ( 1954 ) Australian newspaper advertisement with the 4 star logo, not officially used since 1949 in Australia, appearing on it..
The Australian daybill with the correct style logo from this decade printed on it.
No Road Back ( 1957 ) and Rodan ( 1956 ) that was released in Australia December 1958 by MGM. The poster had been printed earlier on, and pre the MGM distribution arrangement being established in Australia.
Australian RKO one sheet **** and non 4 star updated totals.
Up to 1935. ! without stars.
1936 / 1949. 39 with #### stars.
1949 / 1958. 59 without stars.
Peter
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Australian RKO one sheets **** and non 4 star updated totals.
Up to 1936 ( adjusted year, previously 1935 ). 2 without stars .
1936 / 1949. 39 with **** stars.
1949 /1958. 59 without stars.
A total above of 100, which represents only a very small percentage of the total Australian RKO one sheet posters that would have been originally printed. My educated estimate of the number of films RKO Radio released in Australia during their time as distributors would be nearing a thousand feature length films. This total has included some British product that was released in Australia and not the U.S.A., by RKO.
Looking at these numbers it appears that approximately 90% of the total RKO Australian released feature film one sheets are missing. This is a disappointing number to know about. Of course there would be an unknown number of RKO Australian one sheets that we have never sighted that are most likely sitting in private collections here in Australia, and also overseas that we are unaware of. This number though in the overall scheme of things would have to be minor, and shouldn't make too much difference to the overall 90% estimated figure.
The Last Outlaw ( 1936 ) was released in Australia circa July 1936, and The Arizonian ( 1935 ) in Australia in 1935.
These are the only two examples of RKO Australian one sheets printed prior to the introduction of **** usage that I have been able to locate.
A Woman Rebels ( 1936 ) is the earliest example of RKO one sheet poster **** usage that I have located. Although the poster was printed in 1936, the film was only released in Australia in January 1937.
I have also included the **** daybill poster as well, as it is so beautiful.
Some non **** images of RKO one sheets from the 1950's that I only have only come across within the last twelve months or so that I thought I would now include them here..
To be able to respond to the above question I had to then send it to be able to answer this King Kong question.
The daybill was printed for the Australia wide 1953 re-release.
An Australian one sheet that was also printed for the 1953 re-release, and a Sydney newspaper advertisement from 22 January 1953.
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The Living Desert (1953), 20,000 League Under The Sea (1954), Jungle Headhunters (1951) and Savage Splendor (1949).
Four more found RKO Australian one sheet images printed without the **** stars included in the logo.
Australian RKO one sheet **** and non 4 star updated totals.
Up to 1936. 2 without stars.
1936 /1949. 39 with **** stars.
1949 /1958. 63 without stars.