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  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 984 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    I think there clearly must have been a "warehouse find" of post-WWII Belgian posters, because so many exist, and lots in really nice condition. But there ARE a surprising number of pre-WWII posters (and even the small ones from during WWII), more so than other European countries.

    That could be the result of lots of theaters (as Chris suggests) or maybe there were poster dealers there far earlier than other European countries. Or maybe there was a large poster exchange there that had a huge number of posters and it was bought by a dealer.

    I would love to find out more myself!
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  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 984 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    HONDO said:

    Hello Bruce I have been wondering if you have any thoughts on why such a small country such as Belgium ( 11,562,747 people or there abouts ) have so many posters in the marketplace? They appear 8th in posters sold order as listed by countries on your website. They are way in advance of much larger populated coutries such as Russia, Spain and Mexico.
    Another good question is why so many countries seem to have NO old posters! We all know there are a zillion Argentinean posters (perhaps another warehouse find) but where are the posters from all the other South American countries? They all had theaters. so did they all use Argentinean posters? 
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  • 110x75110x75 Member, Sarli Connoisseur Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    Bruce said:
    HONDO said:

    Hello Bruce I have been wondering if you have any thoughts on why such a small country such as Belgium ( 11,562,747 people or there abouts ) have so many posters in the marketplace? They appear 8th in posters sold order as listed by countries on your website. They are way in advance of much larger populated coutries such as Russia, Spain and Mexico.
    Another good question is why so many countries seem to have NO old posters! We all know there are a zillion Argentinean posters (perhaps another warehouse find) but where are the posters from all the other South American countries? They all had theaters. so did they all use Argentinean posters?

    Argentina led the spanish speaking film industry until the end of WWII, when Mexico took its place. It is quite possible that some latin american countries used argentinean posters (I have bought argentinean one sheets from the 30s from a seller in Peru for example) but the main reason of why there are so many local posters in comparison to other neighbour countries is that we had an enormous population AND an enormous amount of theaters. I believe between the 20s/50s the rate of theaters by habitant was larger than in most european countries.
    The great amount of argentinean posters in the market probably started in the 80s, when there was a massive closing of theaters (due to the video rental market and cable tv). A lot of historical theaters and distribution companies sold their poster warehouses by bulk, for pennies. A lot of actual local poster dealers got their stock in that era, and some foreign (Like Benito) too.
  • 110x75110x75 Member, Sarli Connoisseur Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    Besides Mexico, Brasil and Argentina, the film industry in other south american countries took a lot more time to develop (for political and economical reasons mostly). Most countries have a few early film experiencies in the silent period up to the 50s, but it wasn't until the 60s that local film industries began to take form.
    I am pretty sure that some caribbean countries with a close political relation to the US like Puerto Rico and Panama used US posters in their theaters.
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,648 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           I noticed this Vertigo ( 1958 ) poster image recently. I assume it is A U.S.A.commercial poster and I haven't seen this particulatr image used on a poster previously. I am unable to read two lots of printed information on the bottom right hand sibe and also bottom right of the poster, which may have helped me in identirying the poster origins. Your thoughts please Bruce.
    Lawrence
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 984 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    It looks Indian to me, Lawrence. And likely a re-release.
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  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,648 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector

    Thanks Bruce ror your thoughts. The ''A Universal Classic'' had dated it for me as to being a re-release. 
    Lawrence
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,648 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector
    edited January 17


    Bruce said:
    It looks Indian to me, Lawrence. And likely a re-release.
    HONDO said:

    Thanks Bruce ror your thoughts. The ''A Universal Classic'' had dated it for me as to being a re-release. 
    Since you mentioned India Bruce I have delved into it further and confirmed indeed it is an Indian poster. It is a three sheet poster with one source crediting it as  40'' x 78'' in size and another source 40'' x 77.5''. The original VIstaVision credit and the original Paramount distributor credit being missing  certainly would make it a re-release poster.
    Lawrence
  • JohnJohn Member, Dealer Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    edited January 17
    HONDO said:


    Bruce said:
    It looks Indian to me, Lawrence. And likely a re-release.
    HONDO said:

    Thanks Bruce ror your thoughts. The ''A Universal Classic'' had dated it for me as to being a re-release. 
    Since you mentioned India Bruce I have delved into it further and confirmed indeed it is an Indian poster. It is a three sheet poster with one source crediting it as  40'' x 78'' in size and another source 40'' x 77.5''. The original VIstaVision credit and the original Paramount distributor credit being missing  certainly would make it a re-release poster.
    Yes, definitely Indian and very difficult to date. I have that one in my collection.

    About 25 years ago, some Indian collectibles dealers got hold of John Kisch's Almanac which had the addresses and contact details of many dealers including mine. I started getting packages of Indian posters unsolicited, with a note inside asking for money. Emails weren't an option in those days so it was very difficult to get into contact with the people who sent the posters. I ended up sending a money order for what I thought they were worth and included a note asking them to stop sending them to me. Lots of other dealers also received many packages out of the blue. 

    Most of the posters seem to be referred to as "60s releases". That could well be true but it really is guesswork. They were very poor quality printings on very thin paper. 
    John

  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 8,648 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector


    Vertigo (film)

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In October 1983, Rear Window and Vertigo were the first two films re-released by Hitchcock's estate after his death. These two films and three others – The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956), The Trouble with Harry (1955), and Rope (1948) – had been kept out of distribution by Hitchcock since 1968. Cleaning and restoration were performed on each film when new 35 mm prints were struck.

    If the above information is correct and Vertigo was taken out of theatrical distribution in 1968, not long after Universal  had obtained the rights to Vertigo from Paramount and not released again until 1983, with no evidence that Universal re-released the film in the 196O's, it seems logical to believe that the poster is from the 1980's re-release of the film. The following black and white 8 x 10 is from 1963 when Vertigo was re-released by Paramount who still retained the rights at that time.



    Lawrence
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 984 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    When the Indian posters first started showing up around 25 to 30 years ago, they included some good 1940s titles, and because they were printed on ancient looking paper, almost everyone (including me) thought they might well be first release from the 1940s.

    But then some of them turned up from 1980s titles, and they were printed on the same ancient looking paper! That made everyone with any sense question when the old titles were from, especially because many of each were circulating. Most people concluded, as I did, that they were likely 1980s re-releases, but I never saw any conclusive evidence, just logical guesses.
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  • 110x75110x75 Member, Sarli Connoisseur Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    In the early silent period
    John said:


    I started getting packages of Indian posters unsolicited, with a note inside asking for money.

    That has to be the strangest sales technique I have ever heard of.
  • CharlieCharlie Member, Administrator, Moderator, Game Master Posts: 6,736 admin
    Wish someone would send me posters unsolicited...
    That second mouse in the bowl of cream we call life...
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 984 ✭✭✭ Daybiller

    Our first three new bi-weekly auctions have ended, and now the second three are online, and just like the first three, you all get an extra week to look them all over and place bids.

    Now that the first bi-weekly auctions have ended, how do you regular bidders feel about the change? Are you starting to get used to them? I really don't think there is all that much different, but I want to hear YOUR thoughts!


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  • RickRick Member Posts: 869 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    I thought you were going to two auctions per week, so i have been a bit confused. 
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 984 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Rick said:
    I thought you were going to two auctions per week, so i have been a bit confused. 
     No, the same three auctions, but all last two weeks now.
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  • RickRick Member Posts: 869 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Yes, i realise now, i just thought you were reverting to two a week.
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 984 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Rick said:
    Yes, i realise now, i just thought you were reverting to two a week.
    That was my first thought, Rick, because it was the "safe" thing to do.

    But the more I thought about it, the more I decided that the bi-weekly approach is better.

    I want to eliminate the bottom end stuff, and have bi-weekly auctions where everything is pretty interesting stuff, and we are on the road to that already!

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