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  • PanchoPancho Member Posts: 693 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    I honestly don't know how to feel that the Mondo Jaws poster sold for more than any original one sheet Bruce has ever auctioned. $600 more than a VG-F unfolded example of Roger Kastel's iconic art, described (in part) "...very few are completely unfolded", "Surely this is one of the most desirable 1970s posters there is", "from (a) consignor who worked at Universal in 1975".

    Versus

    "2013 art print", "numbered 2/525"

    As I said, I don't know how to feel!
  • PanchoPancho Member Posts: 693 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    I guess movie poster collecting and Mondo poster collecting aren't the same thing.

    One is a historical, ephemeral, nostalgic hobby and the other is a modern, manufactured scarcity, niche investment.
  • CSM_2_Point_0CSM_2_Point_0 Member, Super Sleuth Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    Pancho said:

    One is a historical, ephemeral, nostalgic hobby and the other is a modern, manufactured scarcity, niche investment.
    ^
    This
    -Chris

    There's a street of lights

    A long dark night
    Restaurant scenes
    And dark machines...

  • CharlieCharlie Member, Administrator, Moderator, Game Master Posts: 6,910 admin
    Pancho said:

    One is a historical, ephemeral, nostalgic hobby and the other is a modern, manufactured scarcity, niche investment.
    ^
    This
    Perfect...
    That second mouse in the bowl of cream we call life...
  • 110x75110x75 Member, Sarli Connoisseur Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    Pancho said:
    I honestly don't know how to feel that the Mondo Jaws poster sold for more than any original one sheet Bruce has ever auctioned.
    It's better for one's mental health not to think about certain things.
    Some people are paying twice what that Jaws Mondo sold for, for a couple of adidas sneakers designed by Pharrell Williams. If you start thinking too much about it, you'll end up wishing human extintion... :)

  • dedeposterdedeposter Member Posts: 111 ✭✭ One-Sheeter
    I'm happy buying classic posters and lobby cards from Bruce. Count me out of the limited edition stuff.
  • MattMatt Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 5,643 admin
    Charlie said:
    Bruce said:
    I see that the people here are NOT Mondo people. :)

    So how do you react to this?:

    979 buyers

    A total of $732,660

     :o 
    Bruce H. - champion card player, stud comic book dealer, movie poster/accessories dealer of the new millennia, emerging fine art print dealer and enabler...

    It was the beginning of the end. These were the best of times and worst of times. Bitcoin had hit an all time high, the rich were more rich than they had ever been. The poor struggling to find the dream of America... But in a little town in Missouri, EMP was peddling the new crack of the entertainment collectibles world - the fine art movie print. It all started when the movie theater industry was on it’s last leg - the future not bright. Off in the distance there stood Bruce, a beacon of hope... How do I get my crack to the market, the owner of Alamo Draft House whispered under his breath... I’ve already sold most of it for far less than the flipper market that I created (knowing one day he could swing three quarters of a million by shorting sales and keeping some copies for himself). That guy who just missed out on the early Moss Star Wars sighs and thinks about suicide - mumbling “#$*^%*!” under his breath... “I could have made thousands!”

    Meanwhile in the far off lands of Texas, Argentina, Australia, and Canada, countless hours of research and love mounted like a pile of dirty clothes.

    The emperor has new clothes now - I wonder how long it will take for the laughing to start. Only time will tell. Sell those special threads as quick as you can... 
    Well said my friend. I love visiting emovie, it's like going to the library of movie posters from the comfort of my home. Well done Bruce!!! 
  • dedeposterdedeposter Member Posts: 111 ✭✭ One-Sheeter
    Laminated vintage daybills...my heart bleeds. :'(
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    Laminated vintage daybills...my heart bleeds. :'(
    Do you think ANY of those exist unlaminated? And I have seen 40 year old laminated posters, and they look EXACTLY the same, which is more than I can say for non-laminated ones!
    We (eMoviePoster.com) hold 3,000 auctions every other week + 6 major auctions a year.
    See all of our current auctions in one gallery here: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html
  • JohnJohn Member, Dealer Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    Bruce said:

    Do you think ANY of those exist unlaminated? And I have seen 40 year old laminated posters, and they look EXACTLY the same, which is more than I can say for non-laminated ones!
    They certainly do exist unlaminated but are very scarce indeed. 
  • RickRick Member Posts: 927 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    I've got a couple of those laminated daybills in non-laminated form.
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    So basically they are common as dirt?

    But can you use YOUR unlaminated daybills as placemats in a pinch at a picnic? :)
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    See all of our current auctions in one gallery here: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    At the start of 2020 I made a momentous decision. I would cut the number of auctions my company (eMoviePoster.com) runs in HALF, guaranteeing it would also cut our sales in half.

    But I saw it as a worthwhile trade-off, because it meant I would work half as much, and could take LOTS of vacations!

    I trust you see where this is heading! The pandemic hit, and there went my vacations. And then everyone started consigning TONS of great stuff (maybe they feared I was about to retire?).

    So I started working harder and harder processing all that stuff, and now the year is over, and it is fair to say I NEVER worked so hard in my entire life.

    And I DID run half as many auctions, but my sales not only did NOT go down by half, but instead we set a new all-time yearly sales record (see the chart HEREhttps://www.emovieposter.com/sales/postersales.php).

    So NEXT year I want to cut the number of auctions in half yet again, in the hopes I can set another new record. Or not!
    We (eMoviePoster.com) hold 3,000 auctions every other week + 6 major auctions a year.
    See all of our current auctions in one gallery here: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html
  • dedeposterdedeposter Member Posts: 111 ✭✭ One-Sheeter
    edited December 2020
    Bruce said:
    At the start of 2020 I made a momentous decision. I would cut the number of auctions my company (eMoviePoster.com) runs in HALF, guaranteeing it would also cut our sales in half....

    ...And then everyone started consigning TONS of great stuff (maybe they feared I was about to retire?)....

    ...So NEXT year I want to cut the number of auctions in half yet again, in the hopes I can set another new record. Or not!
    Bruce,
    Yes, I feared you were about to retire (I think you flagged it as a possibility when you went to bi-weekly auctions), that's why I decided now was the time to cull my collection (which was mainly a retirement fund anyway).

    I'm happy with all that I've consigned and the great prices you've managed to get for me. I've also weakened and kept buying, but now I can get those prime items I've always coveted and not been able to afford. I'm much happier with a smaller collection of items I care about than a large collection that lives in boxes and poster tubes. 

    I'm sure whatever decision you make about auctions going forward will be the right one...and I promise not to send any more crap that goes into bulk lot auctions. I'm embarrassed when I see my items in those auctions, they're going into the bin from now on!
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter

    I'm sure whatever decision you make about auctions going forward will be the right one...and I promise not to send any more crap that goes into bulk lot auctions. I'm embarrassed when I see my items in those auctions, they're going into the bin from now on!
    On bulk lots, I am fine with them as long as the items are SOMEWHAT interesting, and as long as the bulk lots reasonably are worth $20 each.

    I am sure you have noticed the last few bulk lots auctions have done MUCH better, as they have less total junk, and as more $5 to $15 items have started showing up in them.

    Just no old People magazines or stuff like that. Sometimes there ARE items that absolutely no one wants!
    We (eMoviePoster.com) hold 3,000 auctions every other week + 6 major auctions a year.
    See all of our current auctions in one gallery here: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector
    Bruce said:

    I'm sure whatever decision you make about auctions going forward will be the right one...and I promise not to send any more crap that goes into bulk lot auctions. I'm embarrassed when I see my items in those auctions, they're going into the bin from now on!
    On bulk lots, I am fine with them as long as the items are SOMEWHAT interesting, and as long as the bulk lots reasonably are worth $20 each.

    I am sure you have noticed the last few bulk lots auctions have done MUCH better, as they have less total junk, and as more $5 to $15 items have started showing up in them.

    Just no old People magazines or stuff like that. Sometimes there ARE items that absolutely no one wants!

    An intersting occurrence in recenr times is that a fair number of daybill titles included in some of the bulk lots are rare, and to the best of my knowledge made their their first appearance in these auctions. I am wondering if this fact has perhaps contributed in some small way to recent Australian poster bulk lot auctions performing much better?
    Lawrence
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    HONDO said:
    Bruce said:

    I'm sure whatever decision you make about auctions going forward will be the right one...and I promise not to send any more crap that goes into bulk lot auctions. I'm embarrassed when I see my items in those auctions, they're going into the bin from now on!
    On bulk lots, I am fine with them as long as the items are SOMEWHAT interesting, and as long as the bulk lots reasonably are worth $20 each.

    I am sure you have noticed the last few bulk lots auctions have done MUCH better, as they have less total junk, and as more $5 to $15 items have started showing up in them.

    Just no old People magazines or stuff like that. Sometimes there ARE items that absolutely no one wants!

    An intersting occurrence in recenr times is that a fair number of daybill titles included in some of the bulk lots are rare, and to the best of my knowledge made their their first appearance in these auctions. I am wondering if this fact has perhaps contributed in some small way to recent Australian poster bulk lot auctions performing much better?
    Absolutely! And it is not just daybills, but all the other types of bulk lots too. With a lot more interesting items there, far more people are checking them ALL out, which has raised prices overall. But since the contents are better, maybe the higher prices are deserved.
    We (eMoviePoster.com) hold 3,000 auctions every other week + 6 major auctions a year.
    See all of our current auctions in one gallery here: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html
  • jayn_jjayn_j Member, Singin Dancing Fool, Lobby Master Posts: 807 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Bruce said:
    HONDO said:
    Bruce said:

    I'm sure whatever decision you make about auctions going forward will be the right one...and I promise not to send any more crap that goes into bulk lot auctions. I'm embarrassed when I see my items in those auctions, they're going into the bin from now on!
    On bulk lots, I am fine with them as long as the items are SOMEWHAT interesting, and as long as the bulk lots reasonably are worth $20 each.

    I am sure you have noticed the last few bulk lots auctions have done MUCH better, as they have less total junk, and as more $5 to $15 items have started showing up in them.

    Just no old People magazines or stuff like that. Sometimes there ARE items that absolutely no one wants!

    An intersting occurrence in recenr times is that a fair number of daybill titles included in some of the bulk lots are rare, and to the best of my knowledge made their their first appearance in these auctions. I am wondering if this fact has perhaps contributed in some small way to recent Australian poster bulk lot auctions performing much better?
    Absolutely! And it is not just daybills, but all the other types of bulk lots too. With a lot more interesting items there, far more people are checking them ALL out, which has raised prices overall. But since the contents are better, maybe the higher prices are deserved.
    Kind like 'yeah, you can have the juke box, but you gotta take the pool table too'  ?

    Actually, it makes sense as long as there is some common aspect in the lot. If it is random, it just seems a way for the less desirable stuff hit dumpsters.  Still, don't have a better answer, just hate to see history destroyed
    - Jay -
    Curmudgeon in training 
  • HONDOHONDO Member Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭✭✭✭ Le Grande Collector

    The best and only way to start to collect and accumulate a collection, if one has only has limited resourses, would have to be with the bulk lots purchases surely.

    I agree with Jay that the destroying of any film posters isn't desireable. Bulk lots must have to go a long way in helping to accomplish  less posters being discarded.

    A point to consider is that some posters included in the bulk lots, and talking Australian daybills here, are sometimes extremely rare, if not desirable. To discard them perhaps one is eliminating the only existing copies of daybills that may possibly never surface again, with some history then lost.

    Lawrence
  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 4,669 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    edited January 19
    But a collector can only retain so much paper...trust me I know.
    I am starting to drown in stuff I really don't want...

    I am loathe to throw out anything either, but sometime even after offering it up for free with no takers, you really have no alternative.  Shipping costs out of Australia are just ridiculous which puts off alot of collectors.
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter

    I am loathe to throw out anything either, but sometime even after offering it up for free with no takers, you really have no alternative.  Shipping costs out of Australia are just ridiculous which puts off alot of collectors.
    Shipping costs have SO hurt parts of this hobby.

    It is simple math. There are many posters I used to sell to Europeans for $5 or $10. In 2000, shipping was $14, and if they bundled five posters into one package, they might pay $35 plus $14, or $49 for all 5, which was not so bad.

    NOW, shipping for the very same package is often $45, so that same package is $81. People see that and quit bidding on those posters, and it is ENTIRELY the fault of shipping.

    It is much worse for things like linenbacked French one-panels. The shipping has skyrocketed, due to adding the dimensions of the tube to the weight. Again, the shipping is ENTIRELY what is depressing the prices.

    And sadly, it looks like shipping is only going to keep rising. :(
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    See all of our current auctions in one gallery here: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html
  • dedeposterdedeposter Member Posts: 111 ✭✭ One-Sheeter
    Bruce said:

    I am loathe to throw out anything either, but sometime even after offering it up for free with no takers, you really have no alternative.  Shipping costs out of Australia are just ridiculous which puts off alot of collectors.
    Shipping costs have SO hurt parts of this hobby...



    ...And sadly, it looks like shipping is only going to keep rising. :(
    That's one reason why I get my posters sent to my nephew who lives in Dallas, so that I can pick them up when I go to visit...unfortunately that sort of backfired on me last year so he currently has a stash of quite expensive posters waiting for me to collect them. It's also to avoid paying import duty which can be horrendous. I don't think I'll be seeing any of those purchases until the end of this year, early next year at this rate.  :(
  • PanchoPancho Member Posts: 693 ✭✭✭ Daybiller
    Pay and hold and bundling are really the only ways around over the top postage costs. That being said, I personally treat postage as a necessary evil. Sometimes I have to walk away from a deal, and sometimes I grit my teeth and cough up the dough. I can see why some people wouldn't want to pay more than the price of the posters to get them, though. Is it a totally crazy idea to have hubs in other countries to be receiving spots for local distribution?
  • theartofmovieposterstheartofmovieposters Member Posts: 4,669 ✭✭✭✭✭ Elite Collector
    Pancho said:
     Is it a totally crazy idea to have hubs in other countries to be receiving spots for local distribution?

    This is definitely what I do with a network of collectors...I have friends in the US, UK and Canada which have happily accepted packages from their countries until we get a nice stack worth the cost of shipping to send.
    And I am happy to reciprocate from Australia too...It really is the only way to go with international sales these days.
    No pay and hold option from HA is one of the main reasons the maximum I am willing to bid is significantly lower than I would likely go.
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    We are getting a LOT of people who have their purchases shipped with one of their friends.

    I don't know that we have any where a bunch of people have all their stuff shipped together, but we would do that as well. Anything to lower the cost of shipping.
    We (eMoviePoster.com) hold 3,000 auctions every other week + 6 major auctions a year.
    See all of our current auctions in one gallery here: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html
  • TobTob Member Posts: 33 ✭ Mexican Lobby Carder
    Bruce said:
    We are getting a LOT of people who have their purchases shipped with one of their friends.

    I don't know that we have any where a bunch of people have all their stuff shipped together, but we would do that as well. Anything to lower the cost of shipping.
    A friend of mine is a professional shipper in the UK - he handles shipping for lots of Mondo artists when they sell their Artist Proof copies (receives a bulk lot of prints, then re-ships individual orders). 

    I think it might perhaps be complex with the items you auction, but if it ever gets to the stage where it might be a viable help for your UK/EU customers, please let me know and I'll pass on his contact details so you can have a chat. 
  • BruceBruce Member, Captain Movie Poster Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭✭ Three-Sheeter
    Tob said:
    A friend of mine is a professional shipper in the UK - he handles shipping for lots of Mondo artists when they sell their Artist Proof copies (receives a bulk lot of prints, then re-ships individual orders). 

    I think it might perhaps be complex with the items you auction, but if it ever gets to the stage where it might be a viable help for your UK/EU customers, please let me know and I'll pass on his contact details so you can have a chat. 
    Yes, the fact that we sell so many different types and sizes really complicates things! But thanks much for the offer.
    We (eMoviePoster.com) hold 3,000 auctions every other week + 6 major auctions a year.
    See all of our current auctions in one gallery here: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html
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